****. Tonight I feel worse than I have in a while. Lately, things have been going really good for me. My life is getting in order, I am meeting more women. Thing is I went out with my social group tonight, was telling all my good stories about my hooking up this week. I get to the ****in BAr/Club and I can't even ****in talk to a girl properly. I got some serious IOI's from girls and went to talk to two that stick out in my mind. I have the balls go up to talk to one and the other just stands there waiting for me to say something. All I can ****in say is do you go to school? Do you come here often? You look bored? etcWTF. I ask for the number for one and she says she has a BF to let me down easy. WTF is wrong with me. I feel ****ing like a loser to be honest. Then to top it off at the end when the bar is closing I pass by the girl who flaked on me one time to meet at a bar and she doesnt even acknowledge I exist. Then when everyone is going home and parking lot pimpin I see this fool with the flake going home with her to no doubtedly **** her brains out. I see all these people about to hook up and it makes me feel like ****. I know I am better than this. All I ****in had all night was some ugly ass cougars trying to touch me and get me to take them home. I cant even keep a ****in conversation without boring the **** out of these girls. It seriously hurts real bad. I know I sound like a ***** but **** something has to give. No girls wanted to dance. I look like a ***** in front of my group whom I claim to be the leader. **** its irratating. Wtf can I do to stop this ****??? How do I get these chicks to see the real me, I know I am high value but when it comes down to crunch time I couldn't perform. Any suggestions?
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I feel like **** to be honest
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
DonJuanit0
Master Don Juan
You can always get some ideas from this very forum... There are many ppl who post FRs saying how they make their moves on girls, if they succed or not! The most difficult thing to do is make the move in my opinion not what to say! Cause you can easily learn/copy things to say to women... Just search this forum m8 and you will get the ideas you need... You don't need to feel like **** cause of that btw! 
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I know how you feel. There is NOTHING worse than seeing a chick that blew you off leave with another guy. But it does happen. You will have some bad nights. It's part of this game.
WC2
Master Don Juan
You're overthinking.
You could've said ANYTHING to these girls and instead you became nervous and started thinking too much and just went for the interview style approach.
The best thing to say to women is exactly what's on your mind at the moment, because after all it's genuine.
Off the top of my head, if I saw two girls at the club I thought were smoking, I'd go up and ask them if they're dating. Or maybe I'd ask them which one is most likely to have a threesome with me.
Instead you're asking them questions like, "What's your major?" or "Where do you goto school?" Yeah, that'll makem' nice and wet in the panties won't it.
You see these serious questions come later after you've actually sparked a woman's emotions. By opening with something funny and out of the ordinary, you hit girls' emotional notches. They are like "ohh he's talking about threesomes I wonder if he's ever had one.. I wonder what type of guy he is sexually."
RIGHT away these questions are attention getters.
Yeah, some of the time girls will just look at you as if you are a creep. But you persist. "No, really I had a threesome with 2 chicks who looked just like you.. not as classy as you 2, but all the same. What you've never had a threesome?"
or if you opened asking them if they were dating
"Ha, no really, not saying you two look like dykes or anything but I just noticed you two look pretty touchy-feely."
Obviously a blatant lie, I never saw them being touchy-feely. However girls are so self-conscious that they'll buy whatever you say about them. They'll probably be like 'really? haha i didn't know maybe I am a little bit of a dyke'.
Look at it this way. Women are used to dealing with these type of men who either
1. Say nothing and stare at them
or
2. Ask them what their names is, where they're from, etc, etc.
OR
3. The guy who doesn't really give a sh!t and is there to have a good time, not necessarily just to hit on them.
And then most importantly, once you've made your appearance and said your piece, you walk away, with or without a number. Don't just sit there and let the conversation get stale. You're a pimp, you have other exciting conversations to attend to. These chicks are beat. For now, at least.
Just by the way you talk in your post I can tell you're not socially awkward; just a little gunshy when it comes to women. So use your abilities and talk to women just as you would your friends; without a care in mind.
You could've said ANYTHING to these girls and instead you became nervous and started thinking too much and just went for the interview style approach.
The best thing to say to women is exactly what's on your mind at the moment, because after all it's genuine.
Off the top of my head, if I saw two girls at the club I thought were smoking, I'd go up and ask them if they're dating. Or maybe I'd ask them which one is most likely to have a threesome with me.
Instead you're asking them questions like, "What's your major?" or "Where do you goto school?" Yeah, that'll makem' nice and wet in the panties won't it.
You see these serious questions come later after you've actually sparked a woman's emotions. By opening with something funny and out of the ordinary, you hit girls' emotional notches. They are like "ohh he's talking about threesomes I wonder if he's ever had one.. I wonder what type of guy he is sexually."
RIGHT away these questions are attention getters.
Yeah, some of the time girls will just look at you as if you are a creep. But you persist. "No, really I had a threesome with 2 chicks who looked just like you.. not as classy as you 2, but all the same. What you've never had a threesome?"
or if you opened asking them if they were dating
"Ha, no really, not saying you two look like dykes or anything but I just noticed you two look pretty touchy-feely."
Obviously a blatant lie, I never saw them being touchy-feely. However girls are so self-conscious that they'll buy whatever you say about them. They'll probably be like 'really? haha i didn't know maybe I am a little bit of a dyke'.
Look at it this way. Women are used to dealing with these type of men who either
1. Say nothing and stare at them
or
2. Ask them what their names is, where they're from, etc, etc.
OR
3. The guy who doesn't really give a sh!t and is there to have a good time, not necessarily just to hit on them.
And then most importantly, once you've made your appearance and said your piece, you walk away, with or without a number. Don't just sit there and let the conversation get stale. You're a pimp, you have other exciting conversations to attend to. These chicks are beat. For now, at least.
Just by the way you talk in your post I can tell you're not socially awkward; just a little gunshy when it comes to women. So use your abilities and talk to women just as you would your friends; without a care in mind.