I feel like I'm going crazy

[Asmodeus]

You are wound up about some chick that you ended it with 7 years ago... You sound like you are stuck on this one and putting her on a pedestal. Sounds to me like this woman is a bit of a screwball honestly, she sounds inconsistent. If you are defining yourself by how she judges you then you are making a mistake. If you feel negative because this woman (who left you 7 years ago and who is very inconsistent) ignores you than you are making a mistake. Also, keeping her around so long when she does this to you is a mistake. She does not sound like a good friend so why even have a friendship with her? Is it to save face with your other friends... Well if your other friends choose her over you then they are not very good friends either.

Also, I talked about putting yourself out there. I say you should be going out and talking to new women, meeting new people, expanding your social circles.
You return to talk about a girl who it ended with years ago, and how you seem to want to be the focus of this one girl.
I already see what your mindset is...
Let me be honest. It is not the women. You are blaming them for your own failures, the failure is that you have the wrong mindset. Also about the social life issues you mentioned... You only talk about your small group of friends (and that toxic b!tch who is in that circle, poisoning it) and wonder why you cannot find a social life? A social life is something you build, something you must create. To get one you have to be social. There are no excuses for you... If someone like me (with ASPD) can actually create some fragment of a social life then YOU have no fvcking excuses.
And that b!tch who is your friend who you dated 7 years ago... She is toxic. She is poisoning you and making you feel negativity, she is likely poisoning your circle of friends which may explain why your social life is screwed up, she is toxic. You need to sever the ties with her.

 

[Asmodeus]

@LiveYourDream I agree with you except I will say that that there is no professional help for what he has… In my experience psychologists are rather useless. Also, his cure is not going to be sitting in a room talking to somebody. He is obviously not blind to what is happening. He makes a post about how some girl who he dated 7 years ago is ignoring him, he identifies the negativity it is creating in him. He is able to identify what he is doing wrong, he even understands the changes occurring to him and his own mindset. A psychologist will only serve as a mirror and reflect back at him what he already knows as truth. In fact this site may be better than a psychologist as the people here would at least spur him to action, give him better advice on how to meet women and build social circles than a psychologist. He realizes the problem, now he just needs to act and that is a self willed action that he must do himself.
There are those who give into weakness, those who wallow in the ruin that they have made of their life. Those are the people who give up. The people who no longer seek to empower themselves and improve their lives and instead regress as they fall further into this perceived helplessness. They let their fear and anxiety dictate their action, they define themselves by their weaknesses instead of their strengths. You are becoming one of these people, and your life is only going to get worse, you will only regress further, if you do not actually do something about it. But understand that if you give up, then it will not get better, your life will not improve and you will never be happy.
The posters on this forum are all people who all have different experiences, but have one commonality in that they seek to empower themselves (at least most of them). The idea of a Don Juan extends beyond simply getting women. It is a kind of philosophy... It is a person who defines his life through himself, who manifests his own destiny. It is a man who forces his will upon the universe, and lives by his convictions. I think enough people here understand this concept and try to achieve this in their lives. They may not actually have success in everything, but at least they don't give up and become ruled by their fear. This empowerment is what I desire to see in the world, because I hate weakness. I have seen it in a number of individuals here, heck I have even seen a female on this forum exhibit such traits.

Ball is in your court, are you going to empower yourself and build something of worth out of your existence or are you going to give up and turn your life into a ruin?

 

[SayWhat]

Thanks for your advice and words.

I have seen a psychologist a few months back. After a couple of sessions I gave up on going. I felt it did not help at all to talk about my problems and he trying to help me. It felt like throwing money down a pit, it felt like he was just telling me what I wanted to hear and that he did not try to dig deep enough to get to the root cause. I may have quit too early with the sessions, but it's quite costly in my country and I hate throwing money away.

I've posted many threads on this forum, asked for advice, I've read many many books and am currently reading another one in the hope of finding that one moment of epiphany, that life changing moment. I hope it happens, but I also know that it's a utopia as it is a gradual change that needs to happen and people don't change from one day to the other.

I want to break the ties with her, but this would mean to break ties with my friends. This I can not do, they're friends for a reason. They don't 'pick' sides, this is just how it has always been. There have never been sides chosen, I just find it weird that suddenly she stops inviting me as well. When I think about it she might have broken me and got me into this state. My dad also passed away when I was 12, this will probably also has an effect on the fact how I am today. But I think my mom did a terrific job of getting me through my teenage years without my dad. Of course it has influence on my behaviour of being raised by only a mother. But I can't believe this to be the reason why I am who I am today.

I guess it's the fact that this ex was head over heels in love with me for over 6 years before we got together. She would do everything for me and the fact that she suddenly ended it probably has led to this. I think I don't believe in myself anymore because "if I can't keep a girl who would have done everything for me for so long, who was truly in love with me, something must be terribly wrong with me".

 

[KingBeef]

Hi

Lately I'm getting angrier at myself and at the world. I'm getting afraid because it gets worse and worse and I fear that I will end up needing some serious help. I'm mad at myself because there is just no progress. I have no plates, I never had. There is this girl at work I like, I just don't speak to her out of fear of rejection. But in my social life, there are no girls either. I'm getting tired of being alone at the age of 28 and with no prospect whatsoever. I'm getting tired of probably all the missed opportunities I had in my life if I would have been a bit more social.

Some other examples of my changing personality:

- I start to get pissed at people who are so stupid, they become excited about celebs and try to be like them. They are constantly on FB, posting stuff about other people just to show other people that 'hey look at me I like something that is cool, what do you think of me now'. The viral picture of the Samsung presentation with the VR and Zuckerberg basically sums up my feelings towards most people nowadays. And don't get me started on duckfaces. One thing I do like about these people is the fact they all seem very happy.

- if I read in the newspaper that an adolescent has died in a car crash due to too high speed or drinking, I think 'good riddance'. I know this is a very bad way of thinking because there are people who are in grief because of this, but I can't help it, it's their own fault

- I get more and more aggressive, I tend to honk at other cars for very very minor things they did 'wrong'. I yell in my car just because I have a bad day.

- etc...

I can relate. This is just an outsider looking in but maybe this can help. Your frame is weak, your life is permanently wired to stupid social media (which can be a poison) and your locust of control is external (you allow the world to influence and control you.)

The good news is that you are not alone and you see this "trend" in the world for the illogical joke that it is...

1. Work on your frame ( YOU DICTATE WHAT HAPPENS AND HAS INFLUENCE IN YOUR LIFE) If it doesn't match your ideals, ignore it.

2. Hit the gym hard, pickup a hobby, learn a language, have friends that have similar beliefs, etc. Continue growing and stop worrying. you are a single man of value with the world in front of you. Take a step back and ask yourself, WHY ARE YOU WORRYING SO MUCH?

3. There are many sources of media online who agree with you. Seek them out.

4. Do yourself a favor, STOP BEING WIRED TO SOCIAL MEDIA 24/7. It gives stupid, attention whoring, leftists, feminists and reverse racists a free platform to say whatever they want and have these mindless lambs follow them. DISCONNECT YOURSELF FROM THAT NONSENSE. Learn how to put the cell phone/tablet and a take a day off to enjoy yourself without the need of technology. You will improve.

Once you get all of this under your belt, you will be much more positive and your frame will be rock solid. LEARN HOW TO RULE YOUR OWN LIFE.

 

[Serenity]

LYD is a woman or a gay man, post your pics LYD, lets see if you qualify to give advice to men. A 45 y/o unmarried woman whose best friend is a tub of chocolate fudge, giving advice to men and refuting their points.....

why?


I bet you do.

LiveYourDream seems as qualified as any other respected member of this site. She displays a great amount of empathy and problem solving skills. It's more than what you're doing with that post, you don't even have any valid arguments. Her looks doesn't say sh!t about her ability to give advice. I know she will never post her picture, it's dumb.

Yeah I know I'm a "white knight" blah blah blah... No, seriously. LiveYourDream has deserved her respect on this board, despite being a woman. (Pretty impressive IMO)

 

[Asmodeus]

I agree with @Grewd ... Not white knighting because I would be the last person on the face of this earth to do such. But I rather listen to a bunch of people with pvssys giving reasonable advice than be on a site with a bunch of pvssys who have d!cks giving bad advice. Crass but honest and direct.
I think LiveYourDream is a bit of an empath... She seeks to go out in the world and help others and solve other peoples problems because it makes her feel better and she believes she is making a better world. In truth I kind of laugh at the motive but at least she is self willed and doing something other than sitting around wallowing in weakness, in fact she is trying to empower the weak. So I guess I can respect that.
We have all kinds of people on this forum giving advice... I don't give half a $hit who the person is, or even why they are doing it as long as their logic is sound and reasonable and I can agree with it. Look at the words, look at the meaning, and forget about WHO posted it.
So I do not need to see a picture of her nor do I care. In fact thus far only a few people, less than 1%, on this entire forum (me, KingOfPuss, and one or two others) are actually using their real photo. Even then fewer have given any real info about their life, I have because I don't give a $hit and have nothing to lose. See what I mean, for all I know half the posters here may be women...

 

[PapiChulo]

Like the other guys said, travel my friend! Go on an adventure, live in another country. This will give you a perspective on things at home. I am personally planning a move to South America if my current career doesn't work out. I have enlisted in Canadian forces, but have recent injuries that will make it hard to succeed.

 

[Asmodeus]

"I think I don't believe in myself anymore because "if I can't keep a girl who would have done everything for me for so long, who was truly in love with me, something must be terribly wrong with me"."
You think there is something wrong with you? Buddy, the thing most wrong with you is your thinking that there is something wrong with you. That leads to self doubt, you are killing your own self esteem here.
You are blaming yourself on the failure of a relationship. Relationships come and go, people's interests always change. It had nothing to do with you. Say that to yourself in the mirror.
Trust me... I had a woman stay when I was literally abusing her, I had to end it and convince her to leave me despite her desire to stay because I gained enough clarity to see that it needed to stop. And what did you do that was so terribly wrong anyway? Come on.... What is so terribly wrong with you?

 

[LiveFreeX]

it's a sign I can't get a girl from my country to like me

Thats a sign of brainwashing.

If you don't care for what I write, then place me on your ignore list and you'll never see my posts again. If you don't wish to do that, simply don't read them. If you want to read them and you disagree with what I write, than disagree and quote what it is you disagree with so I might have the opportunity to respond. Enough of the personal attacks, or vague twisted projections, or posts to stir up drama. I have no interest in unnecessary drama and nor will I likely ever spend time responding to it again. I don't think anyone else here wants to waste their time wading through unnecessary drama seeking trolling posts either. Enough already.

SS hijacked again. Back to men getting lectures from special interest groups.

 

[Tenacity]

LiveYourDream seems as qualified as any other respected member of this site. She displays a great amount of empathy and problem solving skills. It's more than what you're doing with that post, you don't even have any valid arguments. Her looks doesn't say sh!t about her ability to give advice. I know she will never post her picture, it's dumb.

Yeah I know I'm a "white knight" blah blah blah... No, seriously. LiveYourDream has deserved her respect on this board, despite being a woman. (Pretty impressive IMO)

Impressive? No, it just shows how now even the Manosphere is being infiltrated with gynocentric bullshyt and the white knights here are QUICK to jump on it as they still struggle with accepting red pill reality. The simple fact that LYD is on the top Member list with the bullshyt posts she makes, speaks VOLUMES for how far this website has fallen.

- What exactly does LYD post that helps anybody? Her posts are full of emotional, touchy feely, soft, care bear, "the world is so rosy", type of bullshyt.

- WTF does a WOMAN get out of a male website focused on seducing women? A male website focused on health and fitness? A male website focused on discussing the issues related to being a man in American society today? WTF does she get out of this site?

- If this site is about male self-improvement, why is LYD here?

To me, LYD is a man trolling as a woman, or a woman trolling period. Look at her post history, she joined in November 2014 and immediately starts posting her touchy feely, soft, care bear bullshyt in threads. She never REVEALED she was a woman until a month ago in late January, after over a year of posting her touchy feely, soft, care bear bullshyt.

This goes to show that the Manosphere is becoming as gynocentric as society is and pretty soon men will have NO WHERE TO GO in order to escape the insanity around us.

Sosuave is turning into fvcking LoveShack or the Relationships section of the City Data Forum. And it's disgusting!

 

[Tenacity]

This morning in another thread, you join others in explaining, to Tenacity, why posting personal pictures and identifying information here can be dangerous.

That's fvcking stupid. You can use photobucket and post your pictures through that link then, then post the link here, if you don't want to put your picture in the avatar because the BOOGIE man is going to come get you.

People are hidden and anonymous on here mainly for one reason and one reason only, they are full of shyt. Most of you have a damn Facebook account with your pictures, your family's pictures, etc., scattered all over it doing some outrageous stuff, FAR outrageous than just posting on a god damn discussion forum.

You are just full of fvcking shyt because it's easy to get up here, read a couple of articles, regurgitate information, then get a couple of likes from "sheep", without ever having to post:

- A field report
- Field analysis
- Rejection/Approval ratings
- Information on who you are
- Information on how you look

Anybody can be a god damn EXPERT (or Top Member) on this site through regurgitating information that somebody else wrote.

It's bullshyt and I take offense to it because I put my life on this board, only for hidden/anonymous pieces of shyt to get up here KBJ'ing like a motherfvcker, but get more damn recognition than guys who are actually OUT THERE in the field.

 

[Serenity]

Impressive? No, it just shows how now even the Manosphere is being infiltrated with gynocentric bullshyt and the white knights here are QUICK to jump on it as they still struggle with accepting red pill reality. The simple fact that LYD is on the top Member list with the bullshyt posts she makes, speaks VOLUMES for how far this website has fallen.

- What exactly does LYD post that helps anybody? Her posts are full of emotional, touchy feely, soft, care bear, "the world is so rosy", type of bullshyt.

- WTF does a WOMAN get out of a male website focused on seducing women? A male website focused on health and fitness? A male website focused on discussing the issues related to being a man in American society today? WTF does she get out of this site?

- If this site is about male self-improvement, why is LYD here?

To me, LYD is a man trolling as a woman, or a woman trolling period. Look at her post history, she joined in November 2014 and immediately starts posting her touchy feely, soft, care bear bullshyt in threads. She never REVEALED she was a woman until a month ago in late January, after over a year of posting her touchy feely, soft, care bear bullshyt.

This goes to show that the Manosphere is becoming as gynocentric as society is and pretty soon men will have NO WHERE TO GO in order to escape the insanity around us.

Sosuave is turning into fvcking LoveShack or the Relationships section of the City Data Forum. And it's disgusting!

Lucky you don't decide who's allowed to post what. Freak out and become frustrated all you want, but the party most annoyed is the losing party. You have no real authority to decide the direction a forum takes, unless you're taking it in a good direction with damn good reasons.

This isn't turning into loveshack. Expressing misygynistic attitudes is obviously still allowed, you can women hate all you want here. That's the fantastic thing about this forum, there's nobody of authority that intervenes to stop your hating. Instead I can just hate you. You may have something against women, but I have something against men having something against women who doesn't deserve your sh!t.

If you want to escape the insanity of this forum then do as I do, don't go checking for a while. Instead go draw some fresh air outside and remember that's reality, not what some idiot like you and me says on a forum.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Instead I can just hate you. You may have something against women, but I have something against men having something against women who doesn't deserve your sh!t.

I should say, in response to the previous post, as feelings hurt on this forum now constitute bans from the mods. You get a group of guys who are talking about stuff and having interesting discussions and then introduce a woman and watch the entire organization collapse as men rally around her for no reason but to have approval they can't get outside the internet. Every organization, government, forum, group, company everywhere on the net and in real life. Its not a mistake that roosh bans all women from his forum. Soon SS is going to be run by 3 or 4 women, a bunch of dudes seeking their approval and some trannies to make sure discussions are being steered in the correct direction... cause its the current year!

 

[Tenacity]

Lucky you don't decide who's allowed to post what.

No, I don't get to decide anything of the sort, but it's amazing how this site is shifting into Love Shack. Look at LYD's posts, ALL of her bullshyt is what they post on LoveShack, but LYD's posts have gotten her so many likes that she's a Top Member. How can one not see that this is turning into Love Shack?

Freak out and become frustrated all you want, but the party most annoyed is the losing party.

What in the hell kind of logic is that?

This isn't turning into loveshack. Expressing misygynistic attitudes is obviously still allowed, you can women hate all you want here.

It's called misogynistic sir.

That's the fantastic thing about this forum, there's nobody of authority that intervenes to stop your hating. Instead I can just hate you. You may have something against women, but I have something against men having something against women who doesn't deserve your sh!t.

What I just underlined is the definition of what a white knight is, yet you repeatedly state you aren't a white knight? Also what I just underlined is the mentality of MOST OF THE MEN on LoveShack, you are indeed a member of this website and a lot of guys are starting to act the way you act. But yet, you say this site isn't becoming Love Shack? Look at the hate that Poon King received on this site from the white knights jumping up to do exactly as you state, "defend" women against men who are calling them out on their bullshyt.

If you want to escape the insanity of this forum then do as I do, don't go checking for a while. Instead go draw some fresh air outside and remember that's reality, not what some idiot like you and me says on a forum.

This underlined statement also points to another problem. You see, this forum isn't reality for YOU, because you are anonymous/hidden as fvck. I've put my life on here, I've put my pictures on here, and I actually use this site as a form of self-improvement, networking, etc. In that matter, this site is very much a part of my "reality".

It's guys like me who take this shyt serious, then there's people like you who don't....the problem comes when guys like me (who put their life up here) are somehow put to the back burner for hidden, anonymous KBJs who get up here spitting out "knowledge" without detailing anything about who they are.

 

[Serenity]

@LiveFreeX That image was hilarious.

@Tenacity You're right, by definition I was white knighting. Regardless I'll white knight with the same or higher strength than you hate women, let the war begin.

I'm curious as to how you're going to handle my indifference as you're clearly more emotionally invested in this forum than me. Stop giving a sh!t, you know indifference is good for you.

 

[Tenacity]

@LiveFreeX That image was hilarious.

@Tenacity You're right, by definition I was white knighting. Regardless I'll white knight with the same or higher strength than you hate women, let the war begin.

I'm curious as to how you're going to handle my indifference as you're clearly more emotionally invested in this forum than me.

How am I going to handle your indifference? It's simple, I'm going to allow you to express your opinion. I can't shut off your opinion, what I CAN DO is point out how your opinion is:

- Gynocentric
- Blue Pill based
- White Knight based
- Belongs more at Love Shack

But seeing as though people like you, LiveYourDream and Legend are all trying to turn this website into LoveShack, it won't be long before the Tenacity's of the world, the Pook Kings of the world, the LiveFree's of the world, etc., are GONE from this website.

I'd be damn if I'm about to sit up here arguing with people talking about how damn rosy the world is, how we should all be touchy feely, and how we should just bend over and TAKE it in the a.ss from society, women, our jobs, etc.

 

[Serenity]

How am I going to handle your indifference? It's simple, I'm going to allow you to express your opinion. I can't shut off your opinion, what I CAN DO is point out how your opinion is:

- Gynocentric
- Blue Pill based
- White Knight based
- Belongs more at Love Shack

But seeing as though people like you, LiveYourDream and Legend are all trying to turn this website into LoveShack, it won't be long before the Tenacity's of the world, the Pook Kings of the world, the LiveFree's of the world, etc., are GONE from this website.

What I CAN DO is point out how your opinions are:

- Misogynistic.
- Delusional (not even red or blue pill)
- Hate based
- Belongs at sluthate.

You know if you hateful guys leave, we have won. If all it takes is sticking to our opinions then I'll gladly do it, that's easy. I think loveshack is waaaay more constructive than a bunch of guys agreeing on how fvcked up the world is and how evil b!tches are, you're here to rid yourself of that resentment and not fuel it.

 

[Tenacity]

What I CAN DO is point out how your opinions are:

- Misogynistic.
- Delusional (not even red or blue pill)
- Hate based
- Belongs at sluthate.

You know if you hateful guys leave, we have won. If all it takes is sticking to our opinions then I'll gladly do it, that's easy. I think loveshack is waaaay more constructive than a bunch of guys agreeing on how fvcked up the world is and how evil b!tches are, you're here to rid yourself of that resentment and not fuel it.

I'm glad you learned how to spell misogynistic lol, you can't label me as something sir and not spell it properly.

Now, I have pointed to details in your argument/statements on why I feel you are a white knight, blue pill based and gynocentric, do you care to point out how my statements are hating women and lacking logic?

And of course, if this site turns into Love Shack then I will leave. That's like asking why does someone leave a political party when that political party no longer represents its views, character, outlook and stances. Wouldn't it be stupid to remain a member of said party when it no longer represents me?

I stated a long time ago that one of the main reasons I joined this site was to network with guys who THOUGHT like I did. Well, if this site turns into Live Your Dream's version of Love Shack....then I'm getting the fvck out of here.

 

[Serenity]

@Tenacity I spelled it wrong because I didn't spell check after typing on my touch screen, not because I don't know how to correctly spell. Regardless you're not that dumb and understood what I meant.

You're taking the opposite perspective of what I'm assuming, you're the opposite of a white knight and that's a misogynist. I'm not as much of a white knight as you may think. I'm not a fvcking idiot who reward b!tches for sh!tty behavior. I don't reward fvcking idiot misogynist men either.

I'm not a b!tch to you, to other men or to women. I'm not a weak idiot who lets himself be abused. I don't stand up for all women, only the one's I have judged to deserve it. Standing up for a woman in itself is NOT enough to be a white knight. It's a typical white knight thing to do, but the typical white knight is a fvcking idiot because of other things. Mainly because he supports women in whatever crazy sh!t, I only support what's reasonable.

 

[Tenacity]

@Tenacity and @LiveFreeX you fill this thread with personal attacks or attacks on my presence on this site. I do not believe you have actually commented in disagreement with anything specific I actually posted on the topic of this thread. I don't recall any current disagreements with what I have specifically written in other threads.

I understand that you are both upset that I am a female. I understand that Tenacity is upset that my picture is not posted. I don't understand why either would alter the value of the words I write here. Either they are a positive contribution to SS or they are not.

I'm tired of KBJs who get up here and just because they can regurgitate some shyt they heard elsewhere, they are now somehow labeled as an EXPERT when it comes to dating relations between men and women today. I learn from an individual's personal story, experiences, field reports and analysis from the field that they put up here. I'm sick of these philosophical members who get up here writing their touchy feely bullshyt, all while keeping all details on their personal interactions with women secret.

It's why I'm not a fanboy of Pook like others are here, why you ask? It's because nobody knows anything about this guy. He never posted a field report, information on a girl he was dating, any issues he needed to work on, NOTHING.

All the fvck he did is what you do LYD, get up here and post some philosophical shyt, which has opened the doors for people like you....who claims to be a woman...to do exactly what Pook did, which is just write a bunch of philosophical shyt but not reveal one detail about who the hell you are.

I also get that Tenacity continually projects his dislike for the New Thought Movement (whatever that is) on me. I don't understand why he targets it at me in post after post. I know nothing about it.

Which proves my point that you are just a regurgitator, repeating mantras and phrases that you don't even understand the origin of. Here's a complete breakdown of The New Thought Movement. When I say you sound like a TV prosperity gospel preacher (remember I called you Joyce Meyers), now you will understand why I said that.

I am having a hard time understanding what has suddenly changed. Help please? What changed? Is the upset all about the "Like count"? Really? That is the only thing I can figure out that possibly is upsetting to Tenacity that is different this week than last week, or the week before that and so on. I don't see any other variable changing. I also don't understand the upset about "Like count" either. That's me. Are there meaningful concerns or just projections?

- I want to know WHY you are here?

- What do you GET out of this site?

- What are you seeking to improve on?

- You say you are a 45 year old woman, well, I want to see WHAT you look like. I want a photobucket posted with a sign that says 2/29/2016 and the name LIVE YOUR DREAM on it.

That's it, obviously you don't have to comply with any of my requests, but if you don't then the situation will still be on the table pertaining to what your gender really is, along with what your purpose is on this site. This is a male self-improvement site, why is a woman on here giving advice? And touchy feely advice at that??

Penkitten at least has a picture posted, from what I can tell she looks kinda sexy, so I personally wouldn't mind her input on things related to male/female dating in today's market. For all I know LYD, you could be a fvcking WHALE, which means you have no business in this conversation, sorry!

Or, you could be a guy pretending to be a woman, after all you've been on here since November 2014 posting your touchy feely shyt and didn't reveal you were a chick until a damn month ago!