"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i dont wanna screw this up

gsj23421

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for a little background on my situation please check out this post first: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=209038

today this super hot girl (8/10) came to our school, i was the first to approach her it went super smooth. i opened very naturally, i flirted and it went great. i dont yet know if she is going to my school but i think i have a good chance to get with her (even though she has a boyfriend but both him and her are grade younger than me, im junior shes soph.) btw im not socially awkward and im good looking but my text game sucks. (i only text to set up meets) otherwise im confident talking to girls in person. i dont have a very strong social circle game and there aren't many parties in my school as you can read in my previous post. i just don't want to screw this up cuz last time i tried getting with a girl i scrwed up big time. also please tell me the "quick way" cuz i wanna move in before someone else does. also she told me her parents took her phone up. is this a sh** test or should i wait a few days before texting her? what would be a good solid text opener? i know this sounds kind of stupid but what steps should i take to "get with her"? (mostly just a hookup but maybe date her) is it even worth trying to get with her if i dont have very strong social game? please give me some tips on building rapport? if thats the next move i should make? (advice other than just talk to her, like give some good topics that would "peak" her interest in me) texting tips? also since she has a boyfriend, how can i still "get with her" (i mean i know its possible but how can i?)
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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RiceandChicken

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Woah woah easy there bud. Calm down dude. As long as you don't be desperate you won't screw this up yourself. Honestly, what you should do is keep on talking to her face to face, hell, maybe set up a meet up somewhere and conversation there. Then as you build rappor, get physical slowly but surely. Some touching here and there, stuff like that. Then keep progressing as you build rapport. Then step it up, maybe find out if you can come over, or if she can come over to ur house. Then really turn up the heat.

It's all about progressing. Don't overwhelm her, build rapport, physically and emotionally.
 

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If you come from a school with a limited amount of girls and this girl is one of the better ones you are coming from a viewpoint of scarcity. It shows all over your post. Did she say when she's getting her phone back? I don't think this is a sh*t test, you're just over thinking a lot of this. If she's the new girl then a lot of guys are gonna be trying to get with her. You need to remain cool and not let that affect you. You'll definitely notice whether she has her phone or not at school, most girls have their eyes glued onto their phone screens. Text her something playful once she gets her phone back, don't be generic or you won't stick out from the other guys. Something like "Hey trouble maker, 'bout time you got your phone back" would suffice. Just keep your intents clear and go for it. Of course it's worth trying, optimally you get with the girl or at the very least you get the experience which you can apply next time.
 

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I would say hang around her at school first so she gets comfortable around you. Then after a week or two text her or even ask her in person to "hang out."

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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=197705

Read all of it dude. He does an excellent job on listing out traits, characteristics, and of course the mindset of how you should handle yourself and women.
 
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