"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"I don't know you well enough"

LostAndConfused

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This doesn't particularly apply to me, its more general, but what does this mean?

For example, one of my friends (who girls think hes totally hot....he's more attractive than most male celebrities) at my school hit on this really hot chick a grade lower than him, and she seemed totally interested, and after a week he asked her out, and she gave him this answer.

I'm just bringing this up because if girls are honest when they say this, it seems to contradict most PU on this site.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the girl doesn't trust him
 

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I got this answer also from a 19 year old girl at work who I asked out after about 5 coworkers came to me and told me she wanted me to ask her out, thought I was hot etc. When I asked her she said "I dont even know you".

I said "Uhh...isnt that the point of hanging out??? Ok, well, I had more dates this week so thats fine, I knew you liked me so I wanted to give you a chance, let me know if you change your mind".

I pretty much ignored her, which bothered her a LOT. She was DESPERATE to get my attention after that, which I continued to ignore. She, like this girl, was probably just psycho. But it is one thing that I dont understand.

Oh, and by the way incase anyone mentions it, this particular job doesnt mean shyt to me, so the whole dating at work thing doesnt bother me. They could fire me for all I care, theyd be doing me a favor.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Not enough comfort established with the guy.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Gangster Of Love

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Means either: "I don't trust you enough" and/or "I am not attracted to you".
 

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Depends in what contest. Before sex? This may be a good thing. Before a date or kiss? She doesn't like you.
 

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Would you give your number to any random person on the street(school or where ever), for all you know this could be the craziest fvcker alive. (as for your friend, a good looking crazy fvcker :p)
What she saying is that there hasen't been enough rapport building... By saying hi and telling them you like them or whatever it is you mean by hitting, ISEN't making rapport, the only thing you've done so far is show that your alive. Good for you... Find some stuff out about this girl, find a common intrest and build from thereon out, to then ask a number.
By doing so you have advantage both ways, she'll get intrested in you because you have something in common, but before that you can still see her flaws (does she nag, gossip, lie, whatever), once she's intrested in you, she'll act perfect. You'll only start seeing her flaws again when you've fallen for her (or might have).

So you see, this is something you will find on this site RAPPORT. Some people don't realise it has benefits both ways, now you do, use it in your advantage, build rapport and keep a lookout for irritating habbits of her if she has any (probebly, else call me, I need to see that with my own eyes :D)... If she has flaws that you can't live with you can still dumb her the friendly way without being the socalled jerk. It just wouldn't have worked out.
 

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It just means i'm attracted to you, but I just want to be sure your not a serial killer/rapist. All you need to do is say something like "I'm Joe, and I love long walks on the beach." Use subtext, and give her the impression your been playful, then engage in a normal conversation.
 

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LostAndConfused said:
For example, one of my friends (who girls think hes totally hot....he's more attractive than most male celebrities) at my school hit on this really hot chick a grade lower than him, and she seemed totally interested, and after a week he asked her out, and she gave him this answer.

I'm just bringing this up because if girls are honest when they say this, it seems to contradict most PU on this site.
She doesn't like him. Suppose your friend didn't like a girl but gave all the right signs that he did. If a week later the girl asked your friend out, your friend would say the same thing to the girl he pretended to like.

Not rocket science ladies and gentlemen.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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DonJuan11 said:
She doesn't like him. Suppose your friend didn't like a girl but gave all the right signs that he did. If a week later the girl asked your friend out, your friend would say the same thing to the girl he pretended to like.

Not rocket science ladies and gentlemen.
I'd have to agree here. If someone asks out a chick and gets this answer they just aren't interested.

If you get it before sex, as I sometimes do (and it's a bummer), it is code for "My friend(s) knows I'm with you right now and I don't want everyone to think I'm a huge slut by having sex with you right away."
 

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guys this is just classic flaking

which is means he didn't build enough trust/comfort when he was gaming her
 

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ready123 said:
guys this is just classic flaking

which is means he didn't build enough trust/comfort when he was gaming her
Basicaly, she was already attracted to him, but he didn't comfort her.
 

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Next time, tell your friend to build more rapport with her, before asking her out! It avoids this problem for sure.
 
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I'm Right there.



I had a girl I went down to NC with, and she had a bf, but she Dumped him the day before, so. I picked her up about 30 miles away from my house, which is her house, lmao, and I drove 12 hrs. down to NC with her. we stayed at a hotel the first night, and She said she wanted the "Fuzzy" blankets, and I could have the "Scratchy" one. Well, we ended up sleeping in the same bed. And I kept trying to cuddle up with her, cause I mean, Its all about getting to her the first night so they know you're intrested. Well, I tried, and she said "Scoot over a little bit" , so, had no other choice but to. And about 3 a.m. I woke up unexpectedly with her getting out of bed, to the bathroom, and came back to bed, and I said "Everything okay?" cause my first assumption was that her ex calling her when he got off work.. But false alarm.. and I stayed awake til' she fell asleep, and I tried to cuddle with her, just trying so hard, cause I knew she needed someone to hold her that night, haha, she was feeling a little desperation.. So, she got a little closer when she came back to bed.. And.. told me to scoot over again.. there's strike two. So, I just scoot over to the maybe half inch room of my side of the bed, and she starts talking to me.. Like "Are you okay?" which I think was her asking me if I was alright with her sleeping in my bed.. and I said "Yeah , I'm fine." but it was the cutest thing cause she had the lightest sleep voice I've ever heard.. and she told me "if you need anything, just let me know, okay? ...... (Pause) Okay...?" lmao, "Okay. I'm alright now." But then she turned over to my side, and just looked into my eyes, idk why but I melted so much. Never have I accomplished so much in my life, haha. It was just awesome..



Well, the next day, she tried to slap me to wake me up, as a joke, but I moved out of the way, which means, I stayed up all night. and , we got dressed and got ready to go the other half way down to nc, which we were at Asheborough at the time.. So, yeh, got some breakfast from the main lobby, and went.

(4 hrs. Later)

We arrived, and I feel like a new man, cause mainly, I didn't like the ride over there, haha. she was the mainpoint of it all, I could care less about driving 12 hrs. But, my uncle and all the family meet us down there, and we buy condos for a week, Ocean Isle range.. and we always stop at the resturant which is my uncles favorite resturant.

Heres the deal..
We're all in ohio..
He goes down to NC and picks up the special made butter just how he likes it.. they make it for him. lmao.

But anyway, on our way in there, we spot a game machine.. It was a Nerve machine.. like stick your finger in the hole and it tells you your pulse..
Me and her Averaged about a 80.

And.. Then her bf calls, which I dont think they're over.. So I start to shake a little bit, tremble haha, And then I hear the words "I love you"
My mind goes blank... Never in my life have I felt so rejected..
I go up to that machine and It comes out to a 105.

Almost Fainted on my way over to the machine..
I mean, its not fair.. he cheated on her, and he gets so much action That in my lifetime I would never get out of her..

So, we head to the ocean..
But I'll sum it up ,
Cause a weeks worth is so long to tell,
She barely talked to me again..
And wasn't laughing with me, or telling me how she felt..


I felt neglected.. Like "What am I doing here?" and "Why is she the only way for me to enjoy this"

But it's true.. she was the only way..
Thats all I wanted that trip down..
Her to like me.
For me to hold her, would make me prolly choke on emotions.

I went to the ocean without her the last night, she was getting tired,
I took her ipod without her knowing it, and Just went down there,
Relaxed, Cried a couple tears, Cause It was over.
I wouldn't see her for about another 3-4 months..

I dont want to be another guy, but she says I am.


I told her how I felt when she finally broke up with her bf..
And She said "I can't open up to you... "
and i asked why.. and she said "Because I don't know you well enough"



Like all that fear inside of her not liking me, became a reality..

I keep telling myself "I'm done." cause I'm so tired of it. I never accomplish a girl to like me.. except the one stalker chick .. but she'll fall for anyone..

I dont get it. I have no clue what I'm doing wrong.
I dont want her to feel weird about me, so I back off a little bit,
But I dont want her to not like me, so I try to be a little more than a best friend.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Shannon_=A_Guys_Name said:
and she told me "if you need anything, just let me know, okay? ...... (Pause) Okay...?" lmao FONT]


LOL!
 

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Shannon, I feel like you pretty much did everything wrong. First, I would not be trying to hook up with a chick one day after she broke up with her boyfriend. IMO, it screams of desperation. Personally, I would not go on a 12 hour roadtrip with a girl you have not had sex with. I'm not certain if the room was a double or a single, but if it was a double room and you're in the same bed, she wants something. I would have made one pass at her. If she refused, I would have switched beds or slept on the floor with no explanation. However, I don't pretend to be the king of DJing and would like to hear some other opinions.
 
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haha

I didn't

Her family was going with her..
But she decided to go with me down there, since I was gonna be alone.
haha. I wasn't trying to get anything out of her, haha. I'm not like that.

But I kinda fell in that trap, huh..?
lmfao.
 

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you laugh too much shannon which shows that you are lying to yourself and to us. You blew it and you know it. All that "lying in bed and melting" BS. Please. You shoulda went for the hit and you know it but you were too punk ass to go for it and now she doesn't want anything to do with a girlfriend like you. You friendzoned yourself. You have to make a ho say no. That way they know what your intentions are. Cuddling is not trying. Kissing her and rubbing her tits is trying.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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