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I don't know what to do with this "friend" of three years

HuggablePrince04

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Okay everybody this might be a little bit long, but I want to take it back to square one. In 2010, our Church got together, and decided they wanted some people to travel down to a nearby Monastery to help construct a new house for the head monk. The Sunday prior to our departure our little group came together, and discussed what we were going to do there, and the such. That day is where I first met her, Stacy was her name, and honestly before that point I had never met her, or even spoke with her beforehand.
We had our discussion, and departed only to come back early that week to depart on our magnificent journey. That morning I pulled up to the parking lot, and got out, and here she comes walking up with her suitcases, and then we waited for our ride to come..
We got to the Monastery, and after a night of getting used to the surroundings we got up, and began our mission where her, and I teased each other back, and forth for several days it seemed. One of the last nights we were there one of the monks told her about this trail that would talk you back to the guest house we were staying at. Well she began to walk the trail, and I seeing a good chance to have a positive look got up, and accompanied her so nothing could happen to her in the event it might.
We walked, and talked all the way through the trail, and as the sun was beginning to set our end result was beginning to look more eager. We came to a proverbial "fork in the road" and with a 50/50 split she decided to walk the way I thought would take us back. We walked, and talked for what seemed like hours on end, and with the setting sun growing closer we had not grew any closer to a end result. Our electronics at the time, cell phones, and digital cameras all decided to go dead, and that was not a pleasant thought with the darkness present. Even with all of this we keep walking, and talking until we came to what seemed like a huge hill. After much upbeat optimism from her I finally made it up the hill, and that's where we stopped for the night. When we decided to finally stop we began to talk about various things that was about us. The past relationship she had with some military man who ended up cheating on her, and how she was still holding on to her V card, and I sat there, and told her about me, and the such. Our conversations drag on for hours seeing we had nothing else to do that night. There came a point where we decided to lay down, and still converse, and every time she would hear something in the woods she would grab a hold of my arm and squeeze, but would release once it subsided.
After we came down from the mountain we finished up our trip, and made it home. That night she called me to ask about her shoes, or something like that. Then we discussed where we would meet, or something like that, and we had 2 outing one to a museum, and the other to a quiet restaurant were we exchanged gifts for Christmas. She got some people together to chip in for a concert she thought i wanted to attend. She was determined to bring it to me even after my step mother did not want her to come to the house because she was not feeling well, but she persisted, and showed up to give me the card with the ticket in it. She left after she gave me a hug, and I think a kiss on the cheek (I could be mistaken). We came together for the concert, and after a little bit she mentioned to me that she had a friend that was coming to the same concert, and after he showed up she left with him to the front of the place, and there I was in the back with some other friends. After the concert I was a little discontent with the nights events, and mentioned some un-flattery words to her seeing I was not happy.
Well we had our ups, and downs over the 2 years I don't remember everything, but shortly after the concert I texted her that I did like her, and wanted to go out, or something like that, but she said I wasn't her type she found me attractive, but that was it I think. Well I would often see her at church, and for awhile she would walk up to me and say "What's Up Big Poppa," smile, and hug me, and go into church. Lately it has been like this she hugs me like she does every time she sees me at church , and when i do the collection plate she will often, but not always look up, and have this what seems like a deep smile at me. I took a month off from talking to her after she told me that I needed not to be so clingy, and needy if you will, and a week into the hiatus she called me asking me how my new job was, and the such, and to call her back when I had a chance. Two weeks later after said hiatus that Sunday she smiled at me as usual, and during coffee hour we didn't say a word to each other, and when my family were getting ready to leave i walked over to her area to speak to someone else, and while she was talking to some older gentleman she seemed to go from casual convo to deep convo quick I didn't pay no attention to it, and walked away, and as per my little sisters words she was looking into my direction as we were leaving. That night she sent a message telling me that it was good to see me. Recently I wrote her a note reiterating how we met all those years ago, and how much i cared for her, and asking her that I needed to know how she felt about me, or I was going to have to leave, and that was about 3 weeks ago, and she has yet to respond to it. She tells me that she hasn't had "time" to read it, and when she did she would let me know. She later tells me that the more I ask the more she won't read it, and that's where i leave it alone I have yet to respond to it asking her. She told me 5 days ago after me asking her that I wished things would go back to what they used to be, but knew they would never be that way again, and she came back and told me that if I wanted friends more I needed not to excessively text her and to text her like i would text another girl... huh!
Anyways I waited 5 days, and texted her today and I got some form of communication from her, but not much she told me that she had this major headache, or as she put it her head hurt, and i left it at that I asked her about calling tomorrow she said she was super busy, and i told her that i would call her wednesday about some bday plans.. Now she works in the medical field, and it is getting closer to the eastern european christmas which is subsequently my birthday.. Any help guys!!! She is eastern european btw
 

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Use paragraphs PLEASE!

But in to your question, this chick has made it very clear that she is not attracted to you, so clear your mind of all your fantasies that you just need to convince her and she'll be yours.
Attraction cannot be negotiated and the more you chase, the further she'll run. She just wants to be friends. Period.
If you want to be friends, abandon all hope of being with her. If you can't stand to just be friends, stop tormenting yourself and leave her alone.
If she tries to engage you in conversation, just keep it formal and light and move on quickly.
If she texts you, do not reply.
This is called "No Contact" (NC). This is the only way to rid yourself of a toxic woman who will drain you of your sanity.
 

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Lol Where to begin...? This will sound harsh but it's with the best intentions and should be interpreted as a catalyst for you to wake up.

Dude you are so far in the friendzone/borderline creep zone and have zero chance. Your game is beyond terrible, you are oneitised, you are an AFC, and are not the prize in this situation.

Her attraction to you does not exist. You have done everything wrong in the book that an AFC 15 year old does. I can't really explain to you why it's not going to work because you clearly have no knowledge of game or understanding of women whatsoever.

Strong username by the way - It is a good reflection of your white knight personality.

I would hope that you stumbled upon this site on a whim looking for answers and have not been a lurker bc if you have been a lurker - I can't fathom how you could even be confused at this point about how she is not into you. You need to never talk to her again for you will be miserable. Maybe when you're a DJ you can pull this off but you got no shot now.

Now that you've had your wake up call...

Women want to chase; not be chased. Google "the 16 commandments of the poon" It will be a good foundation for you to understand some of the concepts that attract women.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=83349

Read the book of pook and bounce around the DJ Bible. You have a long journey my friend...

And just to forwarn you, a lot of this stuff may no be congruent with your morals or beliefs so beware...
 

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Prince I don't even know where to start. Lets just say that you are so far into the friend zone with this girl that it's equivalent to being buried by 10000 feet of concrete while locked in a vault and wrapped up like a mummy . You have no hope of ever being romantic with this girl. Please accept this.

So you have two options. Either man up and be a friend, or stop talking to her all together. My suggestion for now is to stop talking to her because your feels for this girl will not allow you to stop feeling romance for her. You need to break away, distance yourself, learn about what it means to be a man and what women want in a man, get into better shape both mentally and physically, and then maybe a couple years down the road you can come back and be a friend to her.

Couple things I see with you is A) you are super religious so that more than likely is going to give you a false impression on what it is that women are really like and really want, and B) I have this feeling (could be wrong) that you are a bigger guy, perhaps overweight, tall, overbearing? That is going to work against you if true with most women. So get into shape. Work out. Women like tall men, but they want tall IN SHAPE tall men.

I suggest you stick around these boards and read up. A lot of it may go against your religious beliefs, but that is ok. Maybe you will get your eyes opened up a tad to the fallacies of organized religion as well. It is good to see all pov on a subject.

Keep posting and good luck.
 

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LISTEN to what these guys are saying. I'm so so glad you've stumbled onto this site. I'm actually excited FOR you and the satisfaction you will gain if you start to browse this site and read more up on this stuff.

I'm going to assume from your story and post count that you're completely new to the site and any material associated with it. But as the others have said, you should not contact this girl any further.

There is NO escape from the friendzone. It sounds like this girl AT ONE TIME might've been hoping that you'd have made a move on her, but it's long long past, and you have no chance. Trust us. As a rule of thumb, the more green boxes a person has under their name, the more credence you should give what they post. The guys on this site (myself included) will give you tough tough love, and it won't be what you want to hear, but it will likely help you more than ANYTHING else you will come across, both in terms of how you deal with girls and in being a man.

I can identify because i was raised catholic, and i was always told to be respectful, and nice, and gentle, and non-sexual, and attentive, and blah blah towards women. Some of the stuff you will see on this site you may not agree with on a moral level, which is FINE. I understand. There are some guys here who are fine with cheating on their girlfriends. I'm not. I don't expect you to compromise your values and religion.

I'm not sure how you feel about premarital sex, either. If you're okay with it, then LISTEN to these guys, and become more sexual and let a woman know you are sexual. If not, then you still need to be physical (even if it's just touching her arm or lower back or whatever....we call this "kino"), as well as making out but obviously you are not pushing towards sex....in this case i guess you would need to find girls who are more religious and in line with your values. But honestly, speaking to you man to man: most catholic girls are sexual, most catholic girls lose their virginity early on. They act like they aren't. But they are. And they probably feel guilty about it too, much like I did when i first started having sex. I'm NOT trying to get you to compromise your values. I'm just being realistic.

Step 1: READ the Don Juan Bible. http://www.mts.net/~bpony/djbible/

Step 2: Read the Book of Pook: http://www.djbible.classicalgasemissions.com/book_of_pook.pdf

Step 3: Browse this site, don't contact this girl, and begin the journey to self improvement.

One thing that may guys think when they first come here and are told to "change" is that "well...I want a girl to like me for who I am inside and outside, and if i change, then this is all a big lie....etc." WRONG. We are not called to "be ourselves". We are called to be our "best selves". You should NEVER be happy with "who you are". You should be in a constant state of self-improvement. Becoming smarter, stonger, more confident, a better man of God, whatever it is. Don't be afraid to improve.

This is not just some anonymous internet forum. I've found more comfort and hope here than any other place. These guys are great and as long as you are willing to work for it, they'll be there every step of the way. You WILL get some tough love, from people you may think are a**holes, but take solace in the fact that basically ALL of these guys have been where you are now. They get it.

If you aren't willing to work for it, don't have any faith in yourself and are happy with the results you are getting with this girl and other girls, then go on and get out of here. This is a place for self-improvement. But you obviously came here for a good reason, so I encourage you to stick around for a bit.

Feel free to private message me with any questions you have. I don't pretend to be the most veteran member of this site, but I've been where you are and I feel like i understand it.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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TL;DR!

God damn! I pulled out my ipad to read another long ass case?

OP, She has low interest and you care too much. It's a lost course. Accept the reality that your princess is in another castle and drop this "friend" (read: a woman you would've banged if you could've.) and move on!

Why do guys have to illegally use pedestals? OP, forget her. She loves your attention. Only this and nothing more.

BTW, she wouldn't just want Brad Pitt or Channing Tatum as just friends. Now unless you like being a beta orbiter, delete this girl for your own sake. Block her if you need to. Judge nismo's orders.

Case closed. Get out of my court.
 
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