"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i dont know how to make out......

Cassanova_Child

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i am the wierdest creature with a **** on this planet.

i have absolutely no problem applying any of the stuff found on this site with girls. they respond, i bust on them some more, they respond some more. than, when things get heavy, my inner wuss rears his uglyass head once again, and i pull back. when i try to initiate things again..... the attractions gone. i screwed the opportunity before it even began.....

anyway, ive now found a way around this inner wussy, by simply living in the present, and knowing that im not gonna get another chance. everything i do now is spontaneous and never planned out before, and chicks dig it (ive found in general, been waiting for school to start before i really start goin for this stuff).

my only problem now: I cant make out.

15 years of being a total ***** has made me totally unprepared. and its the one thing holding me back, becuase im thinking "how will she react if im terrible" etc....

guys, i need help in this one thing to break free of my rut.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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AlexParadox

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dude just do it, how can you say your horrible if you havent even tried

my first time wasnt the best, but i caught on quickly
if your making out with a girl who has had more "make out experiance" you learn quickly
:cheer:
 

Davezz

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dude every person on the planet can kiss just let it happen and youll do at worst ok... unless youre on of few that just sucks... wich i know you arent
 

Triple T

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yea man, few months ago I had never made out with a girl.
I was nervous like you, afraid I was doing it all wrong.

But after a couple times of doing it, I got used to it and so will you :up:
 

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You learn real quick. The first time I made out was definitely weird for me. I was shy about it and very nervous. I picked it up so quick its not even funny. Just don't forget to use your hands. If you use your hands right, oh man I can't even tell you the magic it does.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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nubian-knight

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its not hard. and your only 15

tons of kids are around that age when they first make out

bro i know people pushing 20 with barely/no make out experiance.

dont worry, after a couple times you'll be pro :up:
 

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Let me tell you a little story about someone with a problem similar to yours.

This young man was always scared to make out with young ladies because he was always nervous of how he would do or more importantly how he wouldn't do.

One day while on a date this charming young man decided that he would not be scared of doing the deed that kept his confidence and self respect down for so long. So while waiting on line the young man turned to his chosen mate and said "close your eyes".

Unassuming of what was to come she obeyed, and the young man leaned in and slowly made contact with his lips on hers. For the thirty or so seconds that this lasted the young man was in heaven, a state of bliss like no other; as if the greatest of weights had been lifted.

This relationship continued until one day the young man asked his lady of choice. "Oh lady dearest to me... How am i with the kissing arts?" She stalled as if she were a dear in the headlights. And then gently replied "At first i was not impressed, but that is not what made me want to stay with you" The conversation wound on about why the two liked each so much. The last word however was "you really got better, so i guess you were just nervous about your first time with me".

As you guessed i am that young man, and although im no longer with this girl i still remember everything about what happened very clearly. My advice is to not worry and just do what ever you feel is right at the time you feel is right. You will learn steadily. Just please dont forget that the most important thing is not how you kiss, but what kind of person you are. A relationship isnt just one big make out festival.
 

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AlexParadox said:
dude just do it, how can you say your horrible if you havent even tried

my first time wasnt the best, but i caught on quickly
if your making out with a girl who has had more "make out experiance" you learn quickly
:cheer:
BINGO! and I learned quickly this way ;)
 

stoner1129

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I know most of these guys are telling you you'll be alright, and you will be, it's not bad. My first time wasn't until sunday, after that we just kept on and on, you'll be alright.
 

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Like probably everyone else has told you already, everything takes practice and after the first few times you'll get the hang of it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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intrextrovert

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You learn fast... but #1 advice, is go soft while you are learning. Don't thrust around with your tongue.
 
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