I don't approach women

[MrHarris]

You get calls but the real question is how often are you getting laid by these women? and by how many of them?

 

[backbreaker]

you really want to know?

let me take last weekend. My GF of course....

Thursday night, i was at the club and one of the girls that works in the bar I was talking about saw me on the dance floor, and came up and kissed me and grabbed my ****. She said she had to go get her friends, I said **** that, you are coming with me and she did.


+1

Friday, while my GF was at work, my next door neighboor, who is pretty hot, came over while her BF was gone to work, not the first and definatly won't be the last time we hook up.

+1

Later that night me and my GF did it.

+1

Saturday I had a pretty nasty hangover so I didn't do much for the early part of the day, although I was supposed to go visit an old friend.

This stripper that I mess around with decided she wanted to have a drink before she went to work and stopped by, we did it and she was gone by 7pm.

+1

I get a call from an Ex of mine and says she wanted to see me and she was over a friends house at a party and asked if I wanted to swing by. I went around 8:30 and was out by 9:30 and we went in an ally and she gave it up for old times sake... I shouldn've have done that, becasue I really dont' like her but she gives good head.

Around 10:45 I am back at my house and my two best friends are at my house... they have a key, they are like my brothers. We start drinking and I feel like having some fun, so I call up a girl who is a superfreak and tell her to come over and "entertain" me and my friends...that was nice. She put on a hell of a show, and my two best friends hit, but I had gotten laid 2 times already and I didn't think I was done and I could have sex with her anytime I wanted (once you know the role of each women you see, you can treat a freak like she wants to be treated... a freak.) so I just watched and videotyped the whole thing, which was cool. I didn't get any,l but becasuse I could have and that was pretty pimped out what I did, I think I deserve a point.

+1

This is over with by like 12:45ish and we are hungry and I wasn't supposed to go grocery shopping until the next morning, so we went down the street to play pool and eat (we had enough to drink already). The girl I had sex with thursday night was there, but the girl that I first slept with up there was at work and asked was I going out later on, i told her I was. So after we eat we hit the club and I am dancing and around 3:30 in the morning she comes and grabs my ass and tells me to dance with her. AFter around 10 mintues of dancing we left and went back to my house until around 6:00am. She left and I went to sleep.

+1

I always spend sundays with my GF so I had sex with her that day.

+1

So in a 4 day period, really 3, from thursday at 11pm until sunday morning, I slept with 5 different women, 6 if you count the girl I could have had sex with.

I like to party hard, becasue I work extremely hard durning the week and I only really see my GF durning the week, maybe catch a break here and there, but nothing like on Friday-Saturday.

 

[backbreaker]

also when women call me, it so setup somethign...I make it extremely clear that I don't like to talk and sit on the phone and i don't.

 

[Fatality]

got a pic?

 

[backbreaker]

of me or the girls? I am at home right now, I would have to post a pic of me on my scanner at work tomorrow morning, but I can if you want me to.

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by backbreaker
of me or the girls? I am at home right now, I would have to post a pic of me on my scanner at work tomorrow morning, but I can if you want me to.

I meant you but the girls would be nice too

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by backbreaker

so the power of "she is white, I am black and she has never dated a black guy in her life, let alone ****ed one" can go a long way.

Interesting.

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by Fatality
I meant you but the girls would be nice too

i have a couple of pics, I will be happy t o post them tomorrow morning.

 

[MacDiddy]

Backbreaker: Props for sharing!!!! At last a thread that adds value.

I've noticed that you exercise alot of congruency in your style and attitudes and this is the key that separates most DJs from the AFC...

Do you employ a bit of gunwitch method? ie. do you go sexual state?? or was your style naturally developed throught trial and error???

Just trying to fill in the holes for our viewers out there.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

bb,

Interesting post. I dress similar to how you do (button ups, refined casual loafers, steve maddens, robert waynes, kenneth coles, and slacks. I'm also a black guy and I find that I don't attract nor am I attracted to younger women (18-20.)

Lately, I;ve been pulling women between the ages of 21-35. I'm wondering is it how I dress or is it how I carry myself that attracts this age group and type of women.

I find that I'm not thug enough (air force 1's, jerseys) for the hip hop crowd.

 

[AverageFC]

no offense to backbreaker, but I definitely gotta go with the fact that youre black and the white women want a dip of the chocolate.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

I think it might be that most women like confident guys who dress well.

 

[ScrewIt]

the cold hard fact is that women like mature men, either maturer than them or on the same level.

why do you think many women arent into guys that act like kids or are immature. In bb's case, age doesnt matter, nor should it.

And i believe that is one of BB's stronger traits. based on your writing, and adventures with women, it is apparently the case.

 

[Bonhomme]

Yup

I think it might be that most women like confident guys who dress well.

... and carry themselves well. I'll call this whole package one's "aura" for the sake of saving keystrokes.

How you carry yourself and project your sexuality are even more important than how you dress, but they're all part of your aura. That, and the fact that you come across as your own man.

IMNSHO, there is way, way, way too much attantion given to silly little gambits and techniques on this site, and far too little about the aura you project. It has been said that women tend to categorize a man as a stud or a dud the moment they see him: just like we tend to do with women. Except for women our aura has relatively greater importance and for us her physical attractiveness tends to be more important.

 

[backbreaker]

thanks guys (pics coming in a second, just got out of a meeting)


let me try to answer some of these...

macdaddy,

To be honest, I got some good advice from my dad when I was around 15-16. A girl was over my house one day sitting there with me and my dad watching tv and was rubbing my thigh, and when she left my dad told me she wanted to **** me. I said how did he know and he said anytime that a women shows you extra attention, makes an extra effort to try to get "next" to you or anything out of normacy, she wants to ****, regardless if she knows it or not.

You don't approcach everyone the same way. For instance, my GF loves sex, but she is a good girl at heart, and if I came to her with someting like that she would have kicked me to the curve. I had to take it slow(er) with her. However, when you go out to bars, clubs, things like that, always assume that they want to ****, because they do. I guess you can say I do a version of that method becuaes I am quick to tell a girl what I want to do with her, if she is down than that's great, if not she can get out of the way so I can find someone who can.

self-mystery,

I don't wear slacks. I were blue jeans. Right now I have on some brown and tan steve maddens, some diseal jeans that are dark faded blue, a brown gucci shirt with a dragon on the front, and a DKNY blazer that is brown and matches my clothes (today is really an off day for me, I came to work to handle some business, I am on my way to the horse track in a second).

However when I am at work, usually I don't wear blue jeans, noth ing but suits.

It's probably a little of both. Think about it, if you are a 26 year old women, would you want a guy wearing his pants half off his ass and a tee shirt or a guy that actually had refined style?

The funny thing about me, is I look younger than 21 in the face!

I think what seperates me from most people is that when I walk in a room, I am usually IT if that makes any sence, and what I mean by that is that I am social, I go out of my way to talk to people, I always make jokes, I am the one having fun.

Have you ever walked in a bar and seen guys who are sitting there by themseves, looking a little too cool? That's 90% of men out there. We were at a bar around 2 weeks ago and broke out a spade game, score and all because we had nothing else to do.

In other words, I am good at attracting attention, without attracing attention.

Most white women will date a black guy believe it or not, I have never in my life heard a women say she wouldn't date me because of my race or anything close to that. Just dont' play the race card and usually it doesn't come up too often.

However, I attract black women too (remember, my GF is black), however my two best friends I usually degliate all of the attention I get from black women to them, because they aren't really into other races that much, or I am just too greedy. If a girl comes up and makes convo with us, and I know she wants to talk to me, I will swing the convo to one of my friends and let him do what he has to do.

One of my friends, and he doesn't know it because it's not a big deal to me or him, has a girl he messes around with who is black (and cute as hell) that want's to **** the **** out of me. We were over here playing spades around a a month ago to 4 int he morning and when everyone left, she came back by her self 15 mintues later tr ying to **** me! I told her as bad a sI wanted to, I couldn't do my boy like that and made her leave.

Screwit,

I am very mature for my age, I have been running a pretty nice sized business for 2 and a half years now, it will do that too you. My GF is 25 and I am light years ahead of her as far as maturity. Her ex is 31 and she admits I am more of a man then he is.

Bonhomme,

You are soo right. I was reading a post here the other day aobut "am I missing something in the convo with girls" and laughing too myself becuase I know that by the time you open your mouth, she has made her mind up already. There isn't much if anything you can do to change it.

So what I do, as I assume that I am already in to win with her, I mean, she is taklign to me ins't she? So from that point on, i am trying to ****. Not trying to get her number, not trying to get a date. I want to **** and I will let her know in a minute. Do I get shot down? No, because like I said, I am not approaching, I am making conversation. After a while, she wants to **** me soo bad that she virtually puts a sign on her head telling me to please enter.

My next door neighboor, very sexy... the first day I moved in I saw her and we talked outside and she said she had a BF. I told her in a calm voice that she needed to come over my house when she gets some free time...alone. I kept reminding her and gave her my phone number, all she did was blush and say "you know i can't do that, my bf lives here", but she never said no,.. big difference. One night I get a call from a number I never seen, so out of the blue I thought it was a prank. She asked was anyone over, I said no, and 15 seconds later she was on my couch. I didn't make small talk, I didn't try to hold a convo, I knew what she was here for.


The biggest tip I can give with closing for a women, is you don't have to try to sleep with them, I never do, I just make the enviorment around me accomidating for them to do what they want to do anyway... ****.

I never tell a girl directly lets ****, but I will say come back to my house (which is always spotless, and I mean spotless, I have a cleaning problem) and lets have drinks. The candles will be on, the music is low, I am giving her a message. You are setting the enviorment for her to do what she wants to do anyway..

I had that girl over my house saturday night when she gave my friends a nice show.. I didn't come out and tell her to **** my friends, but I did have drinks here, condoms out, etc.

 

[backbreaker]

another thing, have a proirity list in life and stick to it, no matter how sucessful you get with women.

This is mine:

My job
My family/very close friends
horse racing
girls


I have a friend, if you look at the post here titled "this is baffiling the crap out of me" that is female, and she has gotten me laid so many times I can't count.

More girls are jealous of her than My GF, because she comes first, because she is on that second tier of importance and they are not.

I have been in the middle of sex and she has called my crying and needed someone to talk to, and i would go pick her up and we would go eat or something... This drove girls crazy, because they knew I wasn't trying to **** her, and here they are, giving up the puzzy at will and I am willing to give up that to go and help a friend in need.

the same goes for anyone of my close friends, however my male close friends are like me and tend to handle their problems theirselves.

 

[squirrels]

Originally posted by Bonhomme
... and carry themselves well. I'll call this whole package one's "aura" for the sake of saving keystrokes.

How you carry yourself and project your sexuality are even more important than how you dress, but they're all part of your aura. That, and the fact that you come across as your own man.

IMNSHO, there is way, way, way too much attantion given to silly little gambits and techniques on this site, and far too little about the aura you project. It has been said that women tend to categorize a man as a stud or a dud the moment they see him: just like we tend to do with women. Except for women our aura has relatively greater importance and for us her physical attractiveness tends to be more important.

Originally posted by backbreaker

Bonhomme,

You are soo right. I was reading a post here the other day aobut "am I missing something in the convo with girls" and laughing too myself becuase I know that by the time you open your mouth, she has made her mind up already. There isn't much if anything you can do to change it.

So what I do, as I assume that I am already in to win with her, I mean, she is taklign to me ins't she? So from that point on, i am trying to ****. Not trying to get her number, not trying to get a date. I want to **** and I will let her know in a minute. Do I get shot down? No, because like I said, I am not approaching, I am making conversation. After a while, she wants to **** me soo bad that she virtually puts a sign on her head telling me to please enter.

My next door neighboor, very sexy... the first day I moved in I saw her and we talked outside and she said she had a BF. I told her in a calm voice that she needed to come over my house when she gets some free time...alone. I kept reminding her and gave her my phone number, all she did was blush and say "you know i can't do that, my bf lives here", but she never said no,.. big difference. One night I get a call from a number I never seen, so out of the blue I thought it was a prank. She asked was anyone over, I said no, and 15 seconds later she was on my couch. I didn't make small talk, I didn't try to hold a convo, I knew what she was here for.


The biggest tip I can give with closing for a women, is you don't have to try to sleep with them, I never do, I just make the enviorment around me accomidating for them to do what they want to do anyway... ****.

I never tell a girl directly lets ****, but I will say come back to my house (which is always spotless, and I mean spotless, I have a cleaning problem) and lets have drinks. The candles will be on, the music is low, I am giving her a message. You are setting the enviorment for her to do what she wants to do anyway..

I had that girl over my house saturday night when she gave my friends a nice show.. I didn't come out and tell her to **** my friends, but I did have drinks here, condoms out, etc.

Now THAT should be in Tips or something.

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by backbreaker
I got some good advice from my dad when I was around 15-16. A girl was over my house one day sitting there with me and my dad watching tv and was rubbing my thigh, and when she left my dad told me she wanted to **** me.

lol why is she rubbing your thigh right in front of your dad? I wish my dad gave me advice. He was getting laid at 11 and never once told me a thing about women and sex. The fact that you are only 21 and already have your own business is enough to get girls wet.

 

[So Many Ways]

Originally posted by AverageFC
no offense to backbreaker, but I definitely gotta go with the fact that youre black and the white women want a dip of the chocolate.

Disagree.

I'm black and contrary to popular belief, white women are not banging down our doors to hook up with black guys, that's just not happening. Confidence, a positive attitude, style and game can overcome that and backbreaker has that going for him.

One thing I've noticed is that as I've refined my style a little bit, I'm definitely attracting more attention. For me anyway, nice gear combined with a positive laid back attitude that I've adopted recently has resulted in a flood of IOI's. I've probably gotten more IOI's in the last week then I've gotten in the last 3 months. Now I just need to close these women.

I see the formula as this and it's so simple.

Nice clothes...find your style, something nice that your comfortable with and wear it proudly. I'm forcing myself to wear something nice every time I step out of the house and it really makes a difference.

Adopt a positive attitude and eliminate negative attitudes and feedback. In my car I listen to positive music that gets me in a good mood. Several of my friends have discovered ambition and we chop it up on the daily.

Grooming. I've gotten my hair cut once a week since college.

Conversational skills. Get used to talking to women or anyone for that matter. I'm undergoing bootcamp as it will force you to improve on conversational skills and eye contact. I've only been doing BC for 5 days and I already see a big difference in how I feel in this area.

Have some passion for life. Be active in your life and on improving your life.

 

[Littledude]

Heyy backbreaker, nice thread man. Your story is really nice and I wanted to know if u have any tips with talking to women. I know that somedays I'm quick, witty, and can get the girls to laugh, but other days it's like I have NOTHING to say and can't think of anything.

You always say that girls like to talk to you and so I wanted to know how you can just talk to girls for long periods of time. It's easy to do when I'm talking with guys but it is harder when it is women.