"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I didn't realize that I actually use CnF UNTIL TONIGHT: critque please

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So tonight I was at a friends college grad party. I went to go use the bathroom which was located in the hallway and saw this girl I took out a long time ago waiting for someone to get out. There was a body length mirror at the end of the hallway and she was checking herself out. I asked her:

ME: so, you like checking yourself out?
HER: well, sometimes. Why, do YOU like checking yourself out?
ME: Naw...I don't really like what I see.
HER: (turns away from the mirror and looks at me) HUH?! no way! shuttup!
ME: Do you like what you see?
HER: Omg, HELL yea! I love it!
ME: (and without thinking)Good. Cuz you're looking right at ME.:cool:
HER: hahaha! omg!(punches me on the arm and starts kinoing a bit.

I later recalled this incident and realized that it was CnF.

There was also another time at work with my old target. I was trying to get her number and I did it in a way that I thought was kinda "*****y" on my part. I told her that I was gonna text her a pic that would most likely amuse her and she had doubts about it saying that it might be a nasty pic. I took a risky move and told her:

ME: Ok, if its a nasty pic and you don't like it CALL A CONSEQUENCE. ILL DO IT.
HER: Fine, if its gross you have to go on a date with our manager(he's gay).
ME: I dunno...you might get jealous;) .
HER: (looks at me starts smiling and her cheeks start blushing. So she covered her face giggling.)

I got her number in the end. hahaha

So yea....id like some feedback with this guys. Thanks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Nothing wrong with them. They put a smile on my face. Good work. you dont need to change much, Just keep up with your natural ****iness
 

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Organized Confusion said:
Nothing wrong with them. They put a smile on my face. Good work. you dont need to change much, Just keep up with your natural ****iness
Thanks man. I was informed by my friends that I do this naturally with chicks im attracted.

Bonafide: ****y and Funny
 

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HER: well, sometimes. Why, do YOU like checking yourself out?
ME: Naw...I don't really like what I see.
HER: (turns away from the mirror and looks at me) HUH?! no way! shuttup!

That is not at all CnF. You just admitted you are insecure.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Telos, ssh. You do NOT know whether he said it in a ****y, exaggerated way or not. Ask the right questions, and you'll get the right questions. He can say whatever the hell he damn well pleases.
 

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Telos said:
HER: well, sometimes. Why, do YOU like checking yourself out?
ME: Naw...I don't really like what I see.
HER: (turns away from the mirror and looks at me) HUH?! no way! shuttup!

That is not at all CnF. You just admitted you are insecure.
Yea, I wasnt gonna explain EVERY single detail of the scenario but since you brought this up: I looked in the mirror, turned to my left and right side, fixed my collar, and with a smirk on my face said "Naw...I don't really like what I see."
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Telos, ssh. You do NOT know whether he said it in a ****y, exaggerated way or not. Ask the right questions, and you'll get the right questions. He can say whatever the hell he damn well pleases.
I wasn't asking questions. Of course he can say whatever he pleases, he just won't manage to make much progress with his current approach. Tell me how you can deliver a self depreciating line in a ****y way? I'm telling you from experience, while his body language might have been smooth, it's that sort of self-depreciating humor that should be COMPLETELY eliminated from your exchanges. There is no ****Y in that delivery at all. He's underselling himself for a cheap laugh.
 

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No he isn't. The self depreciating humour was only one short line, and the body language contradicted it. Her reaction was one of shock, it sort of threw her. Then he delivered the witty part, and got a good reaction.
 

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Smack said:
No he isn't. The self depreciating humour was only one short line, and the body language contradicted it. Her reaction was one of shock, it sort of threw her. Then he delivered the witty part, and got a good reaction.
What, exactly, was the witty part?

The whole premise of his "joke" consisted of him communicating that he was unsatisfied with his appearance with incongruent body language (way to throw her off ace), and then asking for validation. Finally, the punchline: "Good. Cuz you're looking right at ME." :crackup:

This is a far cry from CNF. It's just a horrible joke rescued by conflicting body language. Try something like this instead next time:

You: So, you like checking yourself out?
HER: Well, sometimes. Why, do YOU like checking yourself out?
You: HELL yes. Damn I look good. (brush your hair and strike a subtle model pose while obviously checking yourself out, brushing dirt off your shoulder, buffing fingernails on shirt, etc.)
HER: hahaha! omg! (punches you on the arm and starts kinoing a bit.)
You: Watch it lady, there is a cover charge to touch this merchandise. (wink / kino)

Or this:

You: Hey! Stop checking me out.
Her: hahaha! omg! I was not!
You: I know it's hard to control yourself... I'm incredibly irresistible... but at least wait until we get somewhere a little more private... jeez..

Etc...
 

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I really think you're reading too much into this. You're probably the type that over analyses. The bit that you so vehemently disagree with was only a very small part of the overall product. In fact, it added to the punchline because she certainly would not expect someone who is apparently unhappy about their appearance to then accuse of her thinking he looks damn good.
 

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Smack said:
I really think you're reading too much into this. You're probably the type that over analyses. The bit that you so vehemently disagree with was only a very small part of the overall product. In fact, it added to the punchline because she certainly would not expect someone who is apparently unhappy about their appearance to then accuse of her thinking he looks damn good.
Whatever you say, buddy. :cheer:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Smack said:
I really think you're reading too much into this. You're probably the type that over analyses. The bit that you so vehemently disagree with was only a very small part of the overall product. In fact, it added to the punchline because she certainly would not expect someone who is apparently unhappy about their appearance to then accuse of her thinking he looks damn good.
ditto.

Telos, I see what youre getting at but did you see what kind of examples you gave me? Those were just straight up ****Y. There was no funny in it, well: I dunno why the hell she would be laughing at that point unless she's really thinking, "oh geez...this guy swears he's sooo fine:rolleyes:". But hey, if it works for you then all power to you...but I personally think it would make you seem like a narcissist/self-centered.
 
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