I did one of the hardest social things tonight - went to the bar alone

[bigdave17]

technically I went out with 1 friend but he left after 1 hour and I hung out for another 5 hours by myself

I made friends with like 6 new people and also saw about 40 people that I already knew. I met this super nice couple and we were talking. His girlfriend (beautiful 29 year old) and she was asking me if I was single and I said I was and her exact words were "I can't believe you're single, you're very very handsome". Her boyfriend agreed with her. I met a friend of theirs...super cool single dude that I think I'm gonna start going out with.

Zero dating success though. What it comes down to is I just don't believe in myself in regards to dating and women can smell it and they smell it and want nothing to do with me, even no matter how hard I try to perfect myself on the outside, how strong my actual social skills are and how good of a person I may be on the inside.

Here's why I say this - when I met a random new dude somewhere, I already know I can very easily make him like me as if we were best friends and I usually do. When I see a hot woman somewhere, I don't have anywhere near that positive thinking. I feel very apprehensive and borderline negative, anxious, etc....

How do you make yourself believe that a hot young woman will like you when it's never happened in the past?

 

[MrWood]

you are likely good looking, women dont usally give comments like that, unless your actually fugly.

You need to start flirting and less talking

 

[sosousage]

Why not flirt with her boyo

 

[Trump]

That's funny.

I actually went out with 1 friend and after 1 hour 5 of our good friends from college joined us.

I didn't make any friends and didn't see anyone I knew. I met this super nice couple and we were talking. Her boyfriend (handsome 29 year old) and he was asking me if I was single and I said I was and his exact words were "I can't believe you're single, you're very very cool guy". His girlfriend agreed with him. I met a friend of theirs...super cool single gal that I think I'm gonna start going out with.

Lots of dating success though. What it comes down to it I really believe in myself with dating and women can smell it and they smell it and want everything to do with me, even no matter how hard I try to tone down my perfection on the outside, how weak my actual social skills are and how bad of a person I may be on the inside.

Here's why I say this - when I met a random new girl somewhere, I already know I can very easily make her like me as if we were having sex and I usually do. When I see a hot guy somewhere, I don't have anywhere near that positive thinking. I feel very apprehensive and borderline negative, anxious, etc....

How do you make yourself believe that a good looking guy will be friends with you when it's never happened in the past?

 

[sosousage]

That's funny.

I actually went out with 1 friend and after 1 hour 5 of our good friends from college joined us.

I didn't make any friends and didn't see anyone I knew. I met this super nice couple and we were talking. Her boyfriend (handsome 29 year old) and he was asking me if I was single and I said I was and his exact words were "I can't believe you're single, you're very very cool guy". His girlfriend agreed with him. I met a friend of theirs...super cool single gal that I think I'm gonna start going out with.

Lots of dating success though. What it comes down to it I really believe in myself with dating and women can smell it and they smell it and want everything to do with me, even no matter how hard I try to tone down my perfection on the outside, how weak my actual social skills are and how bad of a person I may be on the inside.

Here's why I say this - when I met a random new girl somewhere, I already know I can very easily make her like me as if we were having sex and I usually do. When I see a hot guy somewhere, I don't have anywhere near that positive thinking. I feel very apprehensive and borderline negative, anxious, etc....

How do you make yourself believe that a good looking guy will be friends with you when it's never happened in the past?

Lol. Im similar to you and OP. But i dont think i can be friends or partner regardless if its woman or man

Joking of course
I feel more confident with women
All u need to do is to make her smile and laugh honestly

Worst thing is when they fake smile but inside they hope u go away quick

 

[Spaz]

@Trump , he's trying to learn social skills and in the long run he'll make progress.

Notice the changes in dressing etc.

It's all baby steps at 1st.

 

[MrWood]

im confused... is there some hidden homosexual thing going on here?

 

[devilkingx2]

im confused... is there some hidden homosexual thing going on here?

I get the importance of having red pill bros that know the game and can pull girls, putting the emphasis on their looks is a little weird tho

 

[nmartinez12443]

How big is the city? Yours sounds small if you met 40 people you already knew. Did you actually talk to anyone or just put out the vibe = did nothing.

 

[Masculinity]

Good start. Approach some females and come back to tell us what happened!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Do this a few times a week keep talking to folks

 

[bigdave17]

You have to talk to a therapist because this is about psychological issues, not "game". Your feedback loop of negativity is not grounded in reality, premises or conclusions.

Its funny because we are similar minus the mental issues.

Good job, decent looking, good shape, short, no one can fathom that we are single (men or women), and you claim good personality(this I doubt).

Fact is, you wont attract women you want in clubs or on OLD (7+ women) because you're simply not good looking enough to pull consistently. You can attract them in other scenarios, like social circles. This is why I date 8's fairly regularly although to be consistent my range has to be broad, like 5-9.

I'm 5'10, how is that short? The average woman is 5'3. Being 7 inches taller than avg woman = short?

just so you know, that girl (the nice couple I met) was a legit 8/10 and her exact words were "I can't believe you're single, you're very very handsome. Just put yourself out there, I promise you will have NO problems whatsoever".

 

[Murk]

Incorrect thread title, your friend fvcked off and you stayed out. You didn't do anything great just by staying out and getting zero play.

That's very, very different from going out alone with the intention to attract females. You even saw 40 people you know where the fvck were you, local after school club?

5'10 is fairly short

 

[bigdave17]

Oh ok, you looked shorter.

I get the same throwaway advice, thats what men who are 7-8 in looks get. No one in clubs or on old is impressed with a male 7-8. Women in clubs are looking for a 9 and women on OLD are looking for a 10.

Very very very very few men are 9 or a 10...that's like 1 in a 10,000

so you think the 10% of women who are attractive are all dating the top 0.001 of men? That's mathematically impossible.

My best friend met a beautiful Lebanese girl on a dating site and he is about a 7 or an 8 but he's 5'4

 

[bigdave17]

I said you cant find them in social circles dummy. You're not good looking enough to get them in the hyper competitive markets of the club and OLD.

hhhhmmmm

for what it's worth, I didn't see a single 9 or a 10 last night at the bar. Between face, muscles and fashion sense, I was easily in the top 3 or 5 of the best looking dudes there, if not the best

I don't think you understand how incredibly rare a male 9 or 10 is. So 10% of women are holding out for 0.01% of men? how does that make any sense bro?

 

[Murk]

hhhhmmmm

for what it's worth, I didn't see a single 9 or a 10 last night at the bar. Between face, muscles and fashion sense, I was easily in the top 3 or 5 of the best looking dudes there, if not the best

I don't think you understand how incredibly rare a male 9 or 10 is. So 10% of women are holding out for 0.01% of men? how does that make any sense bro?

I don't think you quite understand the point. Despite your muscles and amazing shirts, you're not good looking enough, which is evident, if you were girls would be throwing themselves at you even if you are slightly autistic.

9 or 10 males are not rare. You just happen to not be one of them. Accept this, asap, for your own health.

 

[bigdave17]

You have the classic narcissistic issue of entitlement above and beyond your actual value

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

this research doesn't prove your point. Your idea of an attractive man isn't top 20% or top 10% or even top 5%, it's top 0.01% of men

Any male 7 or 8 is easily in top 10% of society

 

[bigdave17]

I don't think you quite understand the point. Despite your muscles and amazing shirts, you're not good looking enough, which is evident, if you were girls would be throwing themselves at you even if you are slightly autistic.

9 or 10 males are not rare. You just happen to not be one of them. Accept this, asap, for your own health.

my problem is lack of belief in myself to make a woman like me. I'm going to fix this

Your guys' advice is fukking horrible. Don't try to be successful at something unless you're in the absolute genetic elite? That's like saying don't try to be successful unless you're born into a multi millionaire family

 

[bigdave17]

That makes no sense, a 9 would be 90% percentile etc. You're so sick in the head with negativity lol.

attractiveness is a bell curve...most people are in the average. 9s and 10s are incredibly incredibly rare just like 1s and 2s

Now if you're saying attractiveness in terms of how I rate in general public, I'm easily more attractive than 90% of men. I was more attractive than 95% of the men in that bar last night

 

[Murk]

my problem is lack of belief in myself to make a woman like me. I'm going to fix this

Your guys' advice is fukking horrible. Don't try to be successful at something unless you're in the absolute genetic elite? That's like saying don't try to be successful unless you're born into a multi millionaire family

That's never my advice. My general advice on here is if you have confidence and charm you can be a 6 and get a 9. I think you're worrying too much about LMS, and not focusing on your personality and being a well rounded individual who can talk the pants off any lady, which is what you really need to be successful, imo.

You already prove LMS doesn't = women. You need game.