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[Bigpapa]

While that's not 100% true, there is a lot of overlap between lack of tang and a poor social life.



There are always outliers. I know one of those outliers, a 5'5" guy. Below 5'9" makes it more difficult to get laid. 5'9"-5'10" is around the minimum acceptable height, and 6'0" is the minimum acceptable height on swipe apps if pursuing yuppie white women. In my experience, it is yuppie, younger white women who make the biggest fuss about height.

depends on the girl what they are looking for . If they want to be banged by a guy , for sure the how you look is the most important thing for them . Because this is what they want

 

[mrgoodstuff]

When you are more focused on looking for reasons on why you are not “lucky” , than to actually do something about your situation , you will never really move forward . On the contrary , you will move backwards slowly but surely

Basically complaining ensures failure. Even complaining in our thoughts does it.

 

[Bigpapa]

Basically complaining ensures failure. Even complaining in our thoughts does it.

i also sometimes complain , and sometimes I am just whining , but mainly because I need to steam off and verbalize what I do not like .

do not get me wrong , I understand where some of this guys are coming from and I know that maybe they have a tougher time , but in the same time I also 100% certain that they did not do anything at all to address their shortcomings

for example if you are bald and feel inferior about it . Go get a hair transplant . You quit going to prostitutes and Only fans for a while . Maybe it will take you 1-2 years to get the money needed , but you will eventually

at the end of the day it is all about will power and not being a total looser

 

[mrgoodstuff]

i also sometimes complain , and sometimes I am just whining , but mainly because I need to steam off and verbalize what I do not like .

do not get me wrong , I understand where some of this guys are coming from and I know that maybe they have a tougher time , but in the same time I also 100% certain that they did not do anything at all to address their shortcomings

for example if you are bald and feel inferior about it . Go get a hair transplant . You quit going to prostitutes and Only fans for a while . Maybe it will take you 1-2 years to get the money needed , but you will eventually

at the end of the day it is all about will power and not being a total looser

Our brain has a way of making what we obsess and think about coming true. So if the brain is obsessing about being in a poor position it'll keep us stuck in that reality. Not complaining doesn't change the reality, but instead you are able to focus on thoughts and actions which will incrementally improve your position. Complaining is speaking what you do not desire into existence and reinforcing it. Think about what you desire and take the actions to improve it. Speaking and taking action what you desire into existence.

Another one. Negative thoughts and feelings feeds a low self esteem and positive thoughts feed a high self esteem.

 

[SW15]

depends on the girl what they are looking for . If they want to be banged by a guy , for sure the how you look is the most important thing for them . Because this is what they want

I have said before that "Game" is some combination of looks, money, status, and persona. Looks are important. The 5'3"-5'7" guys who do well often have a lot of persona/charisma, though some can have money/status. Prince the musician at 5'3" had money and status.

Every human interaction is an exchange. It's an exchange of validation, of thoughts and emotions, of opinions, of time, of power, of deeds, of resources or status, or of currency.

There are many men who believe that all sex is paid for one way or another. It’s a matter of the degree of directness.

Yes, pros are real life sex dolls. Ironically rich dudes are some of their best customers. The part I do understand and agree with is that new vagina is better than the same old repetitive vagina. And vagina is better than the hand. Hence, why so many married men partake.

Wealthy men often money to obtain sex. A lot of wealthier men do it directly. Among the wealthier men that do it indirectly, these men use their wealth to obtain women. Guys like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos are not getting laid based on their personas.

Is it healthier to just be celibate? Most men are simply not Chaddish enough to open up Tinder and find sex with an amateur. As for myself, I find the psychological soothing effects of having intimacy - even if paying for it - to be salving a problem, not being the problem.

From a biological standpoint, extended celibacy can be perceived as unhealthy. You’re correct that many men struggle to find sex on Tinder, but Tinder is not the only way to find sex. Tinder is actually one of the toughest ways to get laid.

I think porn and mbating are worse because it alters the brain chemistry in such a bad way.

 

[Bigpapa]

I have said before that "Game" is some combination of looks, money, status, and persona. Looks are important. The 5'3"-5'7" guys who do well often have a lot of persona/charisma, though some can have money/status. Prince the musician at 5'3" had money and status.
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yep . I agree with you , but still you can do decently well in getting sex if you are not let”s say a chad .

I see this very well with my friends . All of them have this LTR or getting married . It is true that they are under the slipper of their wife , and it is true that they play the boyfriend game , but if you look only through the lenses of getting action , they have a decent sex life . For sure not incels

guys who are desperate and incels for sure they are doing something super wrong . Either having way too high expectations , or they just have a very bad personality . Or a mixture of the 2 .

it is important to adjust your game based on the good points that you have . Game it is not universal in the way it is played .

look at actors , they mainly play the same roles over and over again . Some of them are the villains , some of them are the chads , etc etc

 

[sangheilios]

yep . I agree with you , but still you can do decently well in getting sex if you are not let”s say a chad .

I see this very well with my friends . All of them have this LTR or getting married . It is true that they are under the slipper of their wife , and it is true that they play the boyfriend game , but if you look only through the lenses of getting action , they have a decent sex life . For sure not incels

guys who are desperate and incels for sure they are doing something super wrong . Either having way too high expectations , or they just have a very bad personality . Or a mixture of the 2 .

it is important to adjust your game based on the good points that you have . Game it is not universal in the way it is played .

look at actors , they mainly play the same roles over and over again . Some of them are the villains , some of them are the chads , etc etc

I don't want to deviate the topic of this thread further but I agree with this. I feel that too many men that have a hard time with dating/women read articles on pick up sites and forums about how to interact with women, learning game, etc. I feel the result is these men just come across as putting on an act, which is picked up on by these women, and it makes them look cringey/creepy.

Some women go for some bad boy guy from the hood but if you had some asian engineering student trying to put on this persona it's going to be not only hilarious but a disaster lol.

 

[SW15]

yep . I agree with you , but still you can do decently well in getting sex if you are not let”s say a chad .

I see this very well with my friends . All of them have this LTR or getting married . It is true that they are under the slipper of their wife , and it is true that they play the boyfriend game , but if you look only through the lenses of getting action , they have a decent sex life . For sure not incels

All of the friends I've made since moving to my current city are married men or guys in LTRs of 5+ years.

Even married men with bad sex lives are getting laid monthly.

Most incels would accept a marriage and the downsides of a marriage if it meant vaginal access once a month. That's a good deal to an incel.

guys who are desperate and incels for sure they are doing something super wrong . Either having way too high expectations , or they just have a very bad personality . Or a mixture of the 2 .

Desperate men who are incels are doing something wrong. I think it is more often personality than expectations.

Poverty is a key factor in being an incel. If a man is struggling to get laid and he has enough money, he will pay directly for sex. A man who pays directly for sex is not an incel because by paying directly for sex, he is no longer celibate.

it is important to adjust your game based on the good points that you have . Game it is not universal in the way it is played .

Agree that game isn't universal. Bill Gates used money and status to get laid with a mediocre looking at best career woman.

 

[sangheilios]

Most incels would accept a marriage and the downsides of a marriage if it meant vaginal access once a month. That's a good deal to an incel.

This is the reason why a lot of men put up with toxic and abusive women/relationships. Many men are terrified of being alone and not having a chance to have sex, again this is due to a mindset of scarcity and not of abundance or self respect. Regardless of whether or not a man is getting sex, if he can go without this puts him in a position of power, again something repeated in the red pill/MGTOW. I haven't asked a woman out in well over 2 years now and I wouldn't tolerate anything like what I see other men go through.

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[Bigpapa]

This is the reason why a lot of men put up with toxic and abusive women/relationships. Many men are terrified of being alone and not having a chance to have sex, again this is due to a mindset of scarcity and not of abundance or self respect. Regardless of whether or not a man is getting sex, if he can go without this puts him in a position of power, again something repeated in the red pill/MGTOW. I haven't asked a woman out in well over 2 years now and I wouldn't tolerate anything like what I see other men go through.

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you know , how to get laid and how to have a good relationship are two different things .

you can be a terrible bf , but still have crazy amount of success with women .

or you can be terrible at pick up , and be an amazing bf with an amazing relationship .

One does not mean the latter .

usually guys are somewhere in the middle of the spectrum

guys who are terrified of not being able to get sex so they stay in the abusive relationships , from my point of view have a lot of things thst they have to fix about themselves .

but ultimately it comes down to how life became super easy . Imagine during the 2nd world war , guys did not had time to think about what they would do if they loose their gf vagina . Way more terrible things could happen , like being crippled or dying was something that had a decent amount of probability to happen

now Life is super easy . If you do not lick a plug or jump from the building you have a high chance of reaching your 70s , no matter how much of a parasite and useless to society you are

 

[SW15]

you know , how to get laid and how to have a good relationship are two different things .

you can be a terrible bf , but still have crazy amount of success with women .

or you can be terrible at pick up , and be an amazing bf with an amazing relationship .

I've met guys who were terrible bfs who got plenty of one night stands and short term casual sex.

The typical male is subpar at pickup but decent once he is in a relationship, at least for the first 1-3 years of it. This is the classic beta male.

guys who are terrified of not being able to get sex so they stay in the abusive relationships , from my point of view have a lot of things thst they have to fix about themselves .

You described most beta males. Most beta males hang around relationships and marriages too long. These guys are getting occasional sex, but much less than the first 1-2 years of a relationship. There are plenty of betas who manage medium term relationships well. Women do tire of them and more quickly than they would tire of a man who is more alpha/sigma. A more alpha/sigma guy could get 3-5 good years out of a woman whereas a beta in the same situation might get 1-2 good years. Having more alpha traits will extend the quality period of a relationship if the relationship path is chosen.

There are many betas in subpar LTRs or marriages who have been known to visit pros.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

i also sometimes complain , and sometimes I am just whining , but mainly because I need to steam off and verbalize what I do not like .

do not get me wrong , I understand where some of this guys are coming from and I know that maybe they have a tougher time , but in the same time I also 100% certain that they did not do anything at all to address their shortcomings

for example if you are bald and feel inferior about it . Go get a hair transplant . You quit going to prostitutes and Only fans for a while . Maybe it will take you 1-2 years to get the money needed , but you will eventually

at the end of the day it is all about will power and not being a total looser

"steam off" -- releasing intense energy that can be used to drive the actions that you need to better your position.

 

[Zimbabwe]

"steam off" -- releasing intense energy that can be used to drive the actions that you need to better your position.

Men are only negative because the situation causes it. Hope when you're never rewarded with success is only sustainable for so long in every person.

In the words of Thomas Sowell: " It always amazes me how many people there are who never seem to understand that what they have done has contributed to the consequences that followed."

Women treat men so poorly that it leads to the "woe is me" attitude and you can try to break men out of it with the delusion of hope every now and then but eventually they'll sink back into this attitude because it is a reflection of the reality.

I do agree that men need to do something to change this though, the burden is on us and we need to make the best of a very sh#ty situation

 

[MatureDJ]

... but still you can do decently well in getting sex if you are not let”s say a chad .

Do you consider getting sexed by a land whale as doing "decently well"? I have a Chadlite face, so I could get fat chicks - but I have realized that I feel extraordinarily depressed after forking a fat chick.

 

[Bigpapa]

Do you consider getting sexed by a land whale as doing "decently well"? I have a Chadlite face, so I could get fat chicks - but I have realized that I feel extraordinarily depressed after forking a fat chick.

if a fat girl is willingly to sleep with you , it means that you are not ugly , so the reason on why you do not sleep with girls is not entirely to your looks

attraction works the same for every women , does not matter in which size and shapes she comes

but I guess thst it is much easier to say that yoh do not sleep with women based on your looks ( which you can not really change ) , rather than accepting that it is because of something that you can change

and I do not want to offend you man , but with this attitude you are quite annoying to your fellow men . Imagine how it is for a woman

 

[zinc4]

if a fat girl is willingly to sleep with you , it means that you are not ugly , so the reason on why you do not sleep with girls is not entirely to your looks

attraction works the same for every women , does not matter in which size and shapes she comes

but I guess thst it is much easier to say that yoh do not sleep with women based on your looks ( which you can not really change ) , rather than accepting that it is because of something that you can change

and I do not want to offend you man , but with this attitude you are quite annoying to your fellow men . Imagine how it is for a woman

Facts....plenty of landwhales out there that used to be high school beauty queens. At their core, women all operate the same regardless of size or age. Fat women can be even more picky lookswise ironically

 

[2Rocky]

 

[Willie Naylor]

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