"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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so its been a good while since I have posted , on this site .

sometimes you think once you skimmed thru a few posts , and read all the tips from the DJ bible .

you think ? is that all i need ...?

I am at the point right now where all the girls, I have been meeting . LJBF me .

and it sucks . I am 24 I started coming to this site since I was 17 and became a member a few years ago .

but lately I have no idea what the hell I have been doing wrong ? I go in with confidence , and I start to go off topic , and end up getting no numbers or rejected .

all the friends I have who use to be all about one night stands and chasing tail, all have girlfriends with serious relationships , and I am the only single guy who still wont commit .

so I put this idea in my head that if I want to fit in I must find a GF and its messing up my game .

then the person who introduced me to this place , did a whole 180 on me , and told me to start thinking differently towards women , to start chasing women with goals, and to pretty much stop having fun with girls.

so its driving me kinda nuts .

2ndly I am not really big into the PUA thing ,
I have read the GAme by neil , I have read all the pua blogs to see if I can find some answers but all I am getting is how to trick women into sleeping with you .

before this bad game breakdown started happening I was having good luck chuck luck , I would meet some girl I really like , go on one date or 2 and after she would find the guy of her dreams .

then all the slutty easy party girls, that I wanted to just have one night stands with all want something serious .



I also gained weight like 10 pounds
I was able to finish my bachelors degree
I have a car , make decent money ( not rich )
I don't have my own house I still live at home with my folks I can't afford to move out .
I am average but have a beer belly
and I am 5'8
I quit drinking alcohol, I wasn't a drunk or a binge drinker .


and all the women I have been meeting like tall guys whats up with that ?


I could use any type of advice

this is a call for help .

I know the post is kinda long , but if you took the effort of reading :up:

thank you
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I feel your physical appearance may be 80% of the problem.

Get rid of the beer belly and get some nice clothes.

Oh and move out of your parents house.
 

kingsam

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decadentdestruction said:
all the friends I have who use to be all about one night stands and chasing tail, all have girlfriends with serious relationships , and I am the only single guy who still wont commit .

so I put this idea in my head that if I want to fit in I must find a GF and its messing up my game .
rather cant… not to worry… many people, probably some of your friends, are in relationships because they "think they should be" and are in a scarcity mindset on top, its easier to be in a mediocre relationship than be single and Self improve and be the best you can… some of the girls they are with are probably not that great either

nothing wrong with being single, its better to date a lot of girls, then date an awesome one when you meet her, but the majority of chicks wont be compatible with you (for a RL) .... but you could bang a lot of these
decadentdestruction said:
then the person who introduced me to this place , did a whole 180 on me , and told me to start thinking differently towards women , to start chasing women with goals, and to pretty much stop having fun with girls.
do what YOU want... and thats probably to gett better with pulling women

decadentdestruction said:
2ndly I am not really big into the PUA thing ,
I have read the GAme by neil , I have read all the pua blogs to see if I can find some answers but all I am getting is how to trick women into sleeping with you .
try looking at Real Social Dynamics - The Blueprint, DVD Flawless natural DVD, are two good ones to start at..... its “Natural” not routines (and fluffy hats) .... so in a way its not really PU at all... just being YOURSELF but a really COOL version of yourself... not affected by anything and gets women!


decadentdestruction said:
before this bad game breakdown started happening I was having good luck chuck luck , I would meet some girl I really like , go on one date or 2 and after she would find the guy of her dreams .

then all the slutty easy party girls, that I wanted to just have one night stands with all want something serious .
F.UCK lots and there will be some angels in there in between all the party sluts...


decadentdestruction said:
I also gained weight like 10 pounds GYM
I was able to finish my bachelors degree awesome but be proud of that
I have a car , make decent money ( not rich )
I don't have my own house I still live at home with my folks I can't afford to move out . make sure they are not treating you like a kid be proactivly adult, try and be as independent as possible (im still at home at the no. finishing an MA degree, its annoying being at home)
I am average but have a beer belly GYM
and I am 5'8 that NOT a problem - IRELLEVENT
I quit drinking alcohol, I wasn't a drunk or a binge drinker . nice, a few drinks here and there wont hurt


and all the women I have been meeting like tall guys whats up with that ?
what s up with that...its called a limiting belief...5'8 is not short, its equal to and taller than most women...
as ^__^ said its your bad self image

Join the gym and get lean/ripped whatever, it WONT get you loads of pu$$y on its own but it will rebuild you self image and give you that inner confidence
 

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I just turned 25 this month. My height is 5'8'' and I feel exactly as you do with women.

Still live with rents cause I got laid off however, I've always had the image of being well off and I'm moving out within this month.

Friends around us are either occupied by GF's or scarred from EX-GF's. Whilst people who are married are either stuck or on the verge of divorcing.

When it comes to women I have a chick who works two jobs making dough wanting to get with me. She's cute, but not gorgeous... (which may be stupid)

Shoot -- But when it comes down to it... You and I are 24/25... We are in work mode... What we do in the next 5-6 years will define our future, our kids futures and our legacies.

If you feel unsatisfied with what's going on with you, women, or how peopel perceive you, Perhaps you just need to work on yourself. It hurts to see friends with gf's especially pretty gfs who are great gfs... -_-

If you want some of my perspective? Work, pick up a hobby, pick up a sport, pick up women, and MOST IMPORTANTLY -- Pick up yourself!
 
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holy crap , thanks to all who took the time to respond to this . seriously reading this felt like a breath of fresh air . thanks
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The previous replies stated a lot of good information, so I'll try to tackle something they didn't really touch upon.

LJBF's is he'll within itself. So to stay out of the fiery flames, I suggest you turn up the vibe that I like to call sexual. Girls mainly befriend friendly people. They have sex with sexual people. The comfort zone isnt welcome when sexual is on the mind. You have to touch sexually. Touching is powerful. Period. Escalate physically like your her personal trainer. Then add the sexual tone and words as you physcially escalate. Women will recognize that vibe and say to themselves, "Hey! I recognize what he's doing. Let me respond according to his actions. Time for me to ge sexual."

Do you speak English to someone who only speaks spanish? No, you don't! You speak their language. You adjust and act accordingly. Same thing with being sexual. When a women sees sexy, she responds accordingly.

So learn how to be sexual and how to escalate. And get really really comfortable with touching women. Touch is super powerful along with tonality. Those are your most powerful devices you have. Learn to use them.

Good luck mate.
 

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Search for "KINO" in the Board. That (I believe) is basically the No.1 way of not getting the LJBF. Either you get her or you get rejected. But by interacting in a sexual way youl be far from LJBF.
 
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