Body Rider
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This is very helpful indeed!
Thank you very much PK.
I could ask why you know so much about this, but its really none of my bizness!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I Caught Genital Warts!
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Thank you very much PK.
I could ask why you know so much about this, but its really none of my bizness!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
ThePeterman
Don Juan
Some definitive information on both. I'm always careful but you never know.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000857.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000886.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000857.htm
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000886.htm
spider_007
Master Don Juan
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http://www.kcom.edu/faculty/chamberlain/website/lectures/lecture/image/condacu.gif
http://www.healthac.org/images/warts.html
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD18/img0043.jpg
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD52/img0085.jpg
It's all on this site
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD52/img0085.jpg
I'm never having sex again
http://www.kcom.edu/faculty/chamberlain/website/lectures/lecture/image/condacu.gif
http://www.healthac.org/images/warts.html
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD18/img0043.jpg
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD52/img0085.jpg
It's all on this site
http://www.dermis.net/bilder/CD52/img0085.jpg
I'm never having sex again
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
One thing I have a hard time grasping: Even if one does not have symptoms, one can still catch the virus during sexual intercourse while still using a condom.
Does one catches the virus from any skin to skin contact? or is it only contact of your pubic bone, testicles and thigh? and if that is the case can you protect yourself by other means (some sort of an extra barrier or washing the area after?)
Does one catches the virus from any skin to skin contact? or is it only contact of your pubic bone, testicles and thigh? and if that is the case can you protect yourself by other means (some sort of an extra barrier or washing the area after?)
Ken785
Master Don Juan
Yeah man, i want to know too...so if its skin to skin....what if you shake their hand or something??.....can you get it then? or do you have to touch the wart?
iveyleeger
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Where do you get her tested?
The only options I've found cost $500+.
The only options I've found cost $500+.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
fwiw, here is some news about HPV that will be misread by many people. I think condoms help prevent warts being transmitted from man to woman, because men tend to get warts on the part of them that the condom covers. Women, it is important to note, tend to get warts on parts that brush up against the guy's uncovered parts during sex.
This headline will get reduced to "condoms prevent HPV" but that is not correct at all. It is more like "condoms somewhat reduce the chance of women catching warts." 70% is already a very low number to refer to std protection, but for men that number probably dips below 50% for HPV.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/STDs/tb/3591
Condoms Help Block HPV Infection in Young Women
June 22
Women whose partners had used condoms at all times during the eight months before testing were 70% less likely to acquire a new infection
This headline will get reduced to "condoms prevent HPV" but that is not correct at all. It is more like "condoms somewhat reduce the chance of women catching warts." 70% is already a very low number to refer to std protection, but for men that number probably dips below 50% for HPV.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/STDs/tb/3591
Condoms Help Block HPV Infection in Young Women
June 22
Women whose partners had used condoms at all times during the eight months before testing were 70% less likely to acquire a new infection
Ya, a girl could have sex once a year and get something. Remember, 20% of Americans have genital herpes - and a lot of them are probably in denial of it! Much less would they tell you upfront. Most would get an initial outbreak, but subsequent outbreaks may be infrequent and not as noticeable. Therefore, it's easy for them to go into denial. But still means they have and can transmit it, though. Only with a blood test can they know for sure.Giovanni Casanova said:
And HPV - yikes!
Really, it's "great" to read threads like this because it reminds me of how much more self-control I should be using.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
So many people have herpes, like Michael Vick as one unfortunate example. His dirt only got aired because a woman sued him for contracting hsv from him. It is rumored that Tom Cruise has at least oral herpes - after Katie Holmes started dating him, she showed up in public with nasty sores all over her lips.
Almost everyone gets oral herpes by like age 60, I think. That's extremely common. Similar, but not quite the same as genital.Bible_Belt said:
Wow, didn't know Michael Vick had that. Well, at 20%, we're talking MILLIONS of Americans here!
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
Here an example of what I mean by the headline getting oversimplified to wrongly imply that condoms also keep men from getting HPV.
http://www.foodconsumer.org/777/8/Condoms_reduce_risk_of_HPV.shtml
Condoms reduce risk of HPV
By Catherine Snipe
Jun 22, 2006
(foodconsumer.org) - Wearing a condom is not convenient and to many men, it may not be something enjoyable. But a new study released Thursday says consistent use of condoms can help those who are sexually active protect against getting infected with human papillomavirus (HPV).
http://www.foodconsumer.org/777/8/Condoms_reduce_risk_of_HPV.shtml
Condoms reduce risk of HPV
By Catherine Snipe
Jun 22, 2006
(foodconsumer.org) - Wearing a condom is not convenient and to many men, it may not be something enjoyable. But a new study released Thursday says consistent use of condoms can help those who are sexually active protect against getting infected with human papillomavirus (HPV).
Re:
Would you go camping without properly knowing the lay of the land, the risks, and being properly prepared?
Would you take pills or drugs without knowing the risks?
I shouldn't be surprised many guys don't know this, but this is exactly how it occurs.
Genital Warts, as it has been mentioned, biggest issue is the HPV part which has "been shown" to lead to cervical cancer in women.
You just freeze them off as they appear. There's no suppression to them. If an out break occurs, you break 'em off. Even protection won't protect you from this disease because they can be anywhere, and anyone can be a carrier without demonstrating they have it. A woman might even have it, not show, not know it (because a guy like you might not tell her), and then you break out in shock and disbelief over why you caught it.
I've gotten my annual updates when I've been more "promiscuous" and come out clean, and thankfully. In some ways, it sucks to lead a life where you're afrad of the results weeks later. Warts won't ruin your life, BUT, if you bang a girl, who perhaps becomes your gf, and she has an outbreak, or her gyno lets her know what's up...you won't be bf/gf very long, moreover you'll like **** for not manning up.
Sex is a loaded weapon, both literally and metaphorically. My cousin has been calling me recently because his 17 yr old friend had sex with his 16 yr old gf, the condom broke and they want to get the morning after pill, then the abortion pill, and now who knows what. I hope it wisens up my cousin. As for the 17yr old, they've been denied the pills because she's "underage". They asked my gf and I to get them, fawk no. I'm not being party some young girl aborting a child and the consequences that can ensue. If anything, I'd talent a responsible parent.
I realize this **** is a scary thing, but you should know the ups and downs of it. In reality, the upside of random sex with a bunch wh0res isn't better than the downside of diseases, pregnancy, and psycho girls lying about their health and welfare.
A-Unit
Would you go camping without properly knowing the lay of the land, the risks, and being properly prepared?
Would you take pills or drugs without knowing the risks?
I shouldn't be surprised many guys don't know this, but this is exactly how it occurs.
Genital Warts, as it has been mentioned, biggest issue is the HPV part which has "been shown" to lead to cervical cancer in women.
You just freeze them off as they appear. There's no suppression to them. If an out break occurs, you break 'em off. Even protection won't protect you from this disease because they can be anywhere, and anyone can be a carrier without demonstrating they have it. A woman might even have it, not show, not know it (because a guy like you might not tell her), and then you break out in shock and disbelief over why you caught it.
I've gotten my annual updates when I've been more "promiscuous" and come out clean, and thankfully. In some ways, it sucks to lead a life where you're afrad of the results weeks later. Warts won't ruin your life, BUT, if you bang a girl, who perhaps becomes your gf, and she has an outbreak, or her gyno lets her know what's up...you won't be bf/gf very long, moreover you'll like **** for not manning up.
Sex is a loaded weapon, both literally and metaphorically. My cousin has been calling me recently because his 17 yr old friend had sex with his 16 yr old gf, the condom broke and they want to get the morning after pill, then the abortion pill, and now who knows what. I hope it wisens up my cousin. As for the 17yr old, they've been denied the pills because she's "underage". They asked my gf and I to get them, fawk no. I'm not being party some young girl aborting a child and the consequences that can ensue. If anything, I'd talent a responsible parent.
I realize this **** is a scary thing, but you should know the ups and downs of it. In reality, the upside of random sex with a bunch wh0res isn't better than the downside of diseases, pregnancy, and psycho girls lying about their health and welfare.
A-Unit
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
SalParadise
Don Juan
A lot of guys will not get that they need to be careful when they have sex until something bad has happened to them. It's the same way we learn not to touch a hot stove, or taunt an angry dog... but the cost of the lesson can be carried over a lifetime.
With sex, sometimes it takes a big shock or a 'bite' to put you on the smart & cautious path. It's a shame as it's one of those parts of life where a very small mistake can splinter your life at it's root. Perhaps it's our more relaxed attitude to sex - it's a 'normal part of life' so you treat it that way. But crossing the road is a normal part of life, and you still gotta look both ways!!
Meikyo from the 'Mirror of the Soul blog' (http://mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com) went so far as to do a 'cost/benefit' analysis in regards to sex, and decided that the pleasure benefit was not worth the attendant risk.
A little over the top (!), but it does make a valid point. If you're screwing, you need to prepare for the consequences, good or bad.
I wonder: if everyone around us were a reckless investor, and the media was full of stories of crazy, carefree share dealers, would everyone go out and play the stock market with no regard for the potential risks or losses?
With sex, sometimes it takes a big shock or a 'bite' to put you on the smart & cautious path. It's a shame as it's one of those parts of life where a very small mistake can splinter your life at it's root. Perhaps it's our more relaxed attitude to sex - it's a 'normal part of life' so you treat it that way. But crossing the road is a normal part of life, and you still gotta look both ways!!
Meikyo from the 'Mirror of the Soul blog' (http://mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com) went so far as to do a 'cost/benefit' analysis in regards to sex, and decided that the pleasure benefit was not worth the attendant risk.
A little over the top (!), but it does make a valid point. If you're screwing, you need to prepare for the consequences, good or bad.
I wonder: if everyone around us were a reckless investor, and the media was full of stories of crazy, carefree share dealers, would everyone go out and play the stock market with no regard for the potential risks or losses?
B-Lemond
Master Don Juan
It's not very uncommon.
I read somewhere that about 80% of active college students have genetal warts, also known as human pappilary virus (i hope I spelled that right..heh heh).
Just be safe guys and have a FEAR OF STDS!
I read somewhere that about 80% of active college students have genetal warts, also known as human pappilary virus (i hope I spelled that right..heh heh).
Just be safe guys and have a FEAR OF STDS!
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.