I can't stop feeling like I'm destined to be alone forever

[bigdave17]

As people here know - I'm totally obsessed with self improvement. I try to become better looking, more successful, more fit, educated, etc... every single day but I can' t stop feeling like I'm destined to be alone and have zero dating life forever. No matter how much I improve myself, i can't seemingly stop my destiny of being alone forever and ever. I'm literally elite in every category now and it doesn't matter one lick.

What it comes down to is I very very rarely see any decent and natural opportunities to meet women. I go out to bars and clubs and every girl is out with 50 of her friends and clearly has no interest in being hit on. How do you approach a girl out with 50 of her friends??? I go to gyms and every girl has her headphones on and is trying to avoid being hit on at any cost. I can't do online dating because even though I'm like a 8/10 in real life, I'm only a 6-7/10 in pics and you have to be a 10/10 in pics to get even a 6/10 female nowadays for online dating. Any avg girl online is receiving 100000484847 messages a day so she wants total perfection. To me dating is the hardest thing on the planet - I don't understand how the human civilization exists with how difficult women make the dating game. It's absolutely astonishing.

What's my options here? I wish I could just take a pill to be asexual. I absolutely despise dating and I hate women in terms of dating. The only problem with taking steps to destroy my sexual urges is my parents are old school Armenians so they desperately want me to meet someone and get married and have kids. If I had normal American parents, I would do chemical castration so I would have zero sexual urges. I hate women - I would love to focus my whole life on friends/family/social circle/success/hobbies and interests/etc....

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I don't really enjoy talking to them, either.

But I can't have sex without a girl, so what choice do I have? This is why prostitutes come in handy.

 

[foreverAFC]

theres no real answer bro, even if you do find a great girl that could fall apart at anytime or she could get fat and unattractive in the span of a few months and then all of a sudden you're stuck in a relationship or marriage with a chick that looks like chris farley......its best to just focus on yourself and your hobbies as much possible......if cool girl comes along fine if not whatever

do martial arts, weight lifting, vaporize tons of marijuana and eat good foods

 

[Mr Wright]

You have to embody the mindset that if you want it, you'll go for it. It's as simple as that, I wear my balls on my chest and girls see that and like it. In a world where men are becoming more and more feminised, so afraid of offending anyone or getting called a harasser of women, any guy who takes charge of his own destiny is like catnip to a chick. Girls subconsciously create these barriers so the right guy can break them down. If you want to get all evolutionary biology on it, if it was easy she could be letting an inferior guy to bang her and that's no good. So she puts up these boundaries, surrounds herself with her girls, puts on headphones and carries herself in a certain way to ensure that only the men who she would even consider letting in her panties approach her. She has no way of telling this online but in real life there's no hiding, you automatically have an advantage over any hot guy on tinder if you just do what you want. It's that easy really...it's a huge mental step if you're not used to it but I love when girls call me ****y over pillow talk, it just reaffirms to me that what I'm doing is right.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You have to embody the mindset that if you want it, you'll go for it. It's as simple as that, I wear my balls on my chest and girls see that and like it. In a world where men are becoming more and more feminised, so afraid of offending anyone or getting called a harasser of women, any guy who takes charge of his own destiny is like catnip to a chick. Girls subconsciously create these barriers so the right guy can break them down. If you want to get all evolutionary biology on it, if it was easy she could be letting an inferior guy to bang her and that's no good. So she puts up these boundaries, surrounds herself with her girls, puts on headphones and carries herself in a certain way to ensure that only the men who she would even consider letting in her panties approach her. She has no way of telling this online but in real life there's no hiding, you automatically have an advantage over any hot guy on tinder if you just do what you want. It's that easy really...it's a huge mental step if you're not used to it but I love when girls call me ****y over pillow talk, it just reaffirms to me that what I'm doing is right.

What do you talk about when you meet a girl in person?

 

[Mr Wright]

What do you talk about when you meet a girl in person?

What you talk about is irrelevant, it can be the most mundane subjects but what's more important is the energy between beneath the surface. It's that unspoken sexual tension that really drives things forward. Do you know when you're talking to someone about something but there's something that's not being said and unspoken is actually dominating the conversation. It's all about creating that underlying subject line.

I'll give you an example from the other week, I walked into my favourite bar with a few buddies of mine. We're all guys with no girls but I know how I carry myself, I look like the cat who got the cream. We get a drink and within 5 minutes a girl beckons me over to her, within 2 minutes she's showing me her suspenders and she took me to the bar and bought me a drink. After she did, there were a few girls behind me who "accidentally" started dancing into me. I think for the hour and half I was there about 3-4 girls openly or covertly hit on me. Anyway I talk to the girls who danced into me, there's 3 of them who seemed interested so I just picked my favourite, I flirt with her. Note I said I flirt with her, we're talking about things with no substance, it's nothing noteworthy because who cares when it's 12am and you're talking to someone you find attractive. I actually said to a girl the other day who asked what I did for work, I just said "do you really care?" she said no because that's not why we're here. Anyway back to the original night, I'm flirting and dancing with this new girl about 3 metres away from where the original girl who got me a drink was sitting, I get the new girls number and go back to the original girl. I spoke to her for about 3 minutes before she's agreeing to f*ck me in the bathroom. I actually ended up getting busted by security but that's not the point. What you say is irrelevant, I come across as the guy who f*cks girls in bathrooms, it's got very little to do with what I said. I don't think I had even touched her at this point, it was pure sexual tension, energy and vibe. That's where the game is not in what you say.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

What you talk about is irrelevant, it can be the most mundane subjects but what's more important is the energy between beneath the surface. It's that unspoken sexual tension that really drives things forward. Do you know when you're talking to someone about something but there's something that's not being said and unspoken is actually dominating the conversation. It's all about creating that underlying subject line.

I'll give you an example from the other week, I walked into my favourite bar with a few buddies of mine. We're all guys with no girls but I know how I carry myself, I look like the cat who got the cream. We get a drink and within 5 minutes a girl beckons me over to her, within 2 minutes she's showing me her suspenders and she took me to the bar and bought me a drink. After she did, there were a few girls behind me who "accidentally" started dancing into me. I think for the hour and half I was there about 3-4 girls openly or covertly hit on me. Anyway I talk to the girls who danced into me, there's 3 of them who seemed interested so I just picked my favourite, I flirt with her. Note I said I flirt with her, we're talking about things with no substance, it's nothing noteworthy because who cares when it's 12am and you're talking to someone you find attractive. I actually said to a girl the other day who asked what I did for work, I just said "do you really care?" she said no because that's not why we're here. Anyway back to the original night, I'm flirting and dancing with this new girl about 3 metres away from where the original girl who got me a drink was sitting, I get the new girls number and go back to the original girl. I spoke to her for about 3 minutes before she's agreeing to f*ck me in the bathroom. I actually ended up getting busted by security but that's not the point. What you say is irrelevant, I come across as the guy who f*cks girls in bathrooms, it's got very little to do with what I said. I don't think I had even touched her at this point, it was pure sexual tension, energy and vibe. That's where the game is not in what you say.

Was she hot?

At a bar, I think I basically come across as someone who doesn't want to talk to anyone. I always sit by myself. I don't know if I seem shy or crazy to observers. Even when a clear opportunity presents itself to start a conversation, I don't act. 50% because I don't know what to say, and 50% because I don't think it would be worth it.

I can either dress nice and look like a narcissist, or dress down and look like a normal guy. Either way, the result is me just sitting there barely saying a word.

But like you said, what you say doesn't matter as much as what is subcommunicated. I don't know what I give off by sitting silent. I'm perfectly capable of speaking if necessary, but I just don't if there's no reason to.

 

[Desdinova]

I can' t stop feeling like I'm destined to be alone

Being alone isn't horrible. My biggest hurdle was trying to avoid being alone. When you date a string of lousy women who are a pain in your ass, you'll learn that being alone isn't actually all that bad. Only in the past few years did I learn that I actually function very well alone, so why not embrace it?

No matter how much I improve myself, i can't seemingly stop my destiny of being alone forever and ever. I'm literally elite in every category now and it doesn't matter one lick.

Contrary to what many here will tell you, self-improvement is only half of it. You can be the greatest guy in the world and you'll still get ignored by women. The reason is that these women have no clue that you exist! If you don't make them notice you in some way, then you just blend in with everyone else around you. You're a nobody until you make an effort to interact with somebody. You need to strike up a conversation to become even remotely significant in a woman's life. But that's also not the end of it. You need to work to get a date with a woman, because women naturally expect the man to take the lead. That's why most women don't approach. They expect the man to do the approaching. You can bytch about that fact as much as you want, but bytching about it won't make her approach you. It's YOU who needs to take the initiative and approach HER.

What it comes down to is I very very rarely see any decent and natural opportunities to meet women.

You need to create those opportunities, because they generally won't happen all by themselves. It takes one person to start a conversation, and that person has to be YOU. Nobody else is going to do it, so you have to.

I go out to bars and clubs and every girl is out with 50 of her friends and clearly has no interest in being hit on.

That's a woman's safety net. They go out in packs to protect each other from boring losers who are trying to get laid.

How do you approach a girl out with 50 of her friends???

You strike up a conversation with the least attractive one first, and make your way up the ladder by striking conversations with the other unattractive women in the group. Eventually, you are accepted into the group and can start gaming the woman you want to fvck. There are lots of articles on the net on how to seduce a woman in a set. It takes ba11s, confidence, and time. There are guys out there who will practice seducing women in sets until they become masters at it. It can be done, but again, it requires you to actually go out there and do the work

I go to gyms and every girl has her headphones on and is trying to avoid being hit on at any cost.

If you're going to seduce a woman at the gym, you should try finding out her schedule and copy that. If you know how to use your body language humorously, you'll be able to get her attention.

To me dating is the hardest thing on the planet - I don't understand how the human civilization exists with how difficult women make the dating game.

People procreate because the strongest survive. The men with the confidence to approach women and have strong enough game to get them in the sack will be the ones reproducing. The ones who go onto internet forums and bytch about how hard it is to attract women will have their genes die off.

What's my options here?

Work on approaching women, plain and simple. Do it until rejection doesn't matter. Rejection will stop mattering after you've approached a good 50-100 women.

To summarize:
- It's YOU who has to do the approaching because nobody else will
- Blending in with the crowd will not get you a date
- Strong, confident men will pass down their genes

 

[sosousage]

As people here know - I'm totally obsessed with self improvement. I try to become better looking, more successful, more fit, educated, etc... every single day but I can' t stop feeling like I'm destined to be alone and have zero dating life forever. No matter how much I improve myself, i can't seemingly stop my destiny of being alone forever and ever. I'm literally elite in every category now and it doesn't matter one lick.

What it comes down to is I very very rarely see any decent and natural opportunities to meet women. I go out to bars and clubs and every girl is out with 50 of her friends and clearly has no interest in being hit on. How do you approach a girl out with 50 of her friends??? I go to gyms and every girl has her headphones on and is trying to avoid being hit on at any cost. I can't do online dating because even though I'm like a 8/10 in real life, I'm only a 6-7/10 in pics and you have to be a 10/10 in pics to get even a 6/10 female nowadays for online dating. Any avg girl online is receiving 100000484847 messages a day so she wants total perfection. To me dating is the hardest thing on the planet - I don't understand how the human civilization exists with how difficult women make the dating game. It's absolutely astonishing.

What's my options here? I wish I could just take a pill to be asexual. I absolutely despise dating and I hate women in terms of dating. The only problem with taking steps to destroy my sexual urges is my parents are old school Armenians so they desperately want me to meet someone and get married and have kids. If I had normal American parents, I would do chemical castration so I would have zero sexual urges. I hate women - I would love to focus my whole life on friends/family/social circle/success/hobbies and interests/etc....

dont worry sex isnt worth it

 

[corrector]

What it comes down to is I very very rarely see any decent and natural opportunities to meet women. I go out to bars and clubs and every girl is out with 50 of her friends and clearly has no interest in being hit on. How do you approach a girl out with 50 of her friends??? I go to gyms and every girl has her headphones on and is trying to avoid being hit on at any cost. I can't do online dating because even though I'm like a 8/10 in real life, I'm only a 6-7/10 in pics and you have to be a 10/10 in pics to get even a 6/10 female nowadays for online dating. Any avg girl online is receiving 100000484847 messages a day so she wants total perfection. To me dating is the hardest thing on the planet - I don't understand how the human civilization exists with how difficult women make the dating game. It's absolutely astonishing.

What's my options here?

Speed dating? If you are an 8/10 in real life and as good as you are saying overall then you should be able to succeed there. Also you have meetup groups where, again, you should have no problem pulling something if you are what you describe.

If your pics are 6-7/10 you can get a professional photographer and have better quality pics.

By the way, I have personally tried each one of the suggestions that I am giving you and they didn't work out for me. But, maybe they'll work for you or you can add them to the list of failed attempts that at least you tried it.

 

[Dingo]

I have always believed that to be truly free one has to be able to be happy alone.

It is good to have close loved ones but life can change in an instant.... Always be ready to be alone.

Good luck.

 

[bigdave17]

I have always believed that to be truly free one has to be able to be happy alone.

It is good to have close loved ones but life can change in an instant.... Always be ready to be alone.

Good luck.

you guys think I want a woman to complete my life. My desire to meet someone is based on subconscious needs

if it was up to me, I would be asexual. I hate dating/women

 

[bigdave17]

Being alone isn't horrible. My biggest hurdle was trying to avoid being alone. When you date a string of lousy women who are a pain in your ass, you'll learn that being alone isn't actually all that bad. Only in the past few years did I learn that I actually function very well alone, so why not embrace it?

I won't allow myself to get in a bad relationship. I have a lot of self respect and I'm very picky in terms of how I get treated

good relationship >>>>>>>>>>> being single >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad relationship

You strike up a conversation with the least attractive one first, and make your way up the ladder by striking conversations with the other unattractive women in the group. Eventually, you are accepted into the group and can start gaming the woman you want to fvck. There are lots of articles on the net on how to seduce a woman in a set. It takes ba11s, confidence, and time. There are guys out there who will practice seducing women in sets until they become masters at it. It can be done, but again, it requires you to actually go out there and do the work

Do you understand how obscenely difficult this is??

 

[Von]

you guys think I want a woman to complete my life. My desire to meet someone is based on subconscious needs

if it was up to me, I would be asexual. I hate dating/women

Than why are you here?

Why write on a ''DATING'' advice website?

My last typed word for you ever: You are a troll, we get that, you have needy tendencies, you put yourself up so HIGH in your descriptions that no girl can ever feel a connection to you (or guys for that matter).... Have you considered you might be into Guys? Since you writing all of post on how to DATE WOMEN but you say YOU HATE TO DATE WOMEN.

Relationship comes from talking to them... no matter what medium you pick...

If you want to get a relationship without ever talking or ''DATING'' just take a ticket to a poor country and GET MARRIED in exchange of her being your ''relationship'', she will get ''income and status'' ...

Remember it's lonely at the top especially with your head in the clouds

 

[Red Legg]

Once you achieve an abundance mentality (took me years to achieve) women are like YAWN...Once you find one please have a no fear of loss mentality.

 

[Desdinova]

Do you understand how obscenely difficult this is??

Yes because I've done it. If you spend your life being afraid of challenges, you'll never get anywhere. You've worked to improve other areas of your life, and now it's time to improve this one.

 

[bigdave17]

Than why are you here?

Why write on a ''DATING'' advice website?

My last typed word for you ever: You are a troll, we get that, you have needy tendencies, you put yourself up so HIGH in your descriptions that no girl can ever feel a connection to you (or guys for that matter).... Have you considered you might be into Guys? Since you writing all of post on how to DATE WOMEN but you say YOU HATE TO DATE WOMEN.

Relationship comes from talking to them... no matter what medium you pick...

If you want to get a relationship without ever talking or ''DATING'' just take a ticket to a poor country and GET MARRIED in exchange of her being your ''relationship'', she will get ''income and status'' ...

Remember it's lonely at the top especially with your head in the clouds

I'm not a troll at all. I don't struggle to feel a connection with people- I have 10 to 20 friends that I love dearly. All my friends' girlfriends and wives are crazy about me - they all say I'm a fantastic person and I also love them dearly.

As far as dating goes, I struggle to meet someone I like (very few women have a good all around package in terms of looks/body/personality/intelligence/having a decent job/etc..) and I very rarely see an opportunity to approach in a natural not super awkward way. In those rare opportunities, the women never like me

I have a crazy high sex drive and a very strong desire to meet and date someone but this is all subconscious. If it was up to me, I would be asexual. I despise dating

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I'm not a troll at all. I don't struggle to feel a connection with people- I have 10 to 20 friends that I love dearly. All my friends' girlfriends and wives are crazy about me - they all say I'm a fantastic person and I also love them dearly.

As far as dating goes, I struggle to meet someone I like (very few women have a good all around package in terms of looks/body/personality/intelligence/having a decent job/etc..) and I very rarely see an opportunity to approach in a natural not super awkward way. In those rare opportunities, the women never like me

I have a crazy high sex drive and a very strong desire to meet and date someone but this is all subconscious. If it was up to me, I would be asexual. I despise dating

Maybe you're not being honest with your emotions when you talk to them? For example, maybe you are being polite when you really want to be angry?

I'm just guessing, I really don't know.

 

[bigdave17]

Maybe you're not being honest with your emotions when you talk to them? For example, maybe you are being polite when you really want to be angry?

I'm just guessing, I really don't know.

no I'm very genuine

 

[btownbuck2012]

@bigdave17 you are the definition of an attention wh*re. See a shrink dude.