"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I can't figure this girl out

biggiesmalls4266

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I see this girl at the gym all of time right around the same time and right around the same location inside the gym. And we both literally workout next to each other. When we make eye contact, we smile and we both say hi to each other. There are times when I see her and I'm sure she see's me but we don't make eye contact and we just continue our workout. And there are other occasions where I'm aloof on purpose.

Now I've only had an opportunity to speak with her twice in a 3 week span (the rest is eye contacts, smiles & hi's) One time we were walking together towards the locker room and the second time she was on her way out of the gym and I was heading back to the locker room. On both occassions I was asking all of the questions and she was answering BUT she was answering the questions in detail and elaborating. She wasn't reciprocating and asking me questions which has me stumped. There was also times when she did laugh but there were times when she looked away when she talked. If she wasn't interested at all, she could avoid me in every instance because the place is gigantic and she could easily just give me one word answers. I mean this girl is very attractive but either she really doesn't have a personality or I have no idea.

Since I see this girl all of time, I figure I'm not going kamikaze and ask her out on the spot only because it's a recipe for crash & burn.

Any thoughts on this?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Just ask her out and you will know exactly where you stand. It's better to crash and burn than to waste your time and let other opportunities pass you by while you wait for this girl.

Good luck mate.
 

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DropZone3 said:
Just ask her out and you will know exactly where you stand. It's better to crash and burn than to waste your time and let other opportunities pass you by while you wait for this girl.

Good luck mate.
Exactly.

This isn't Final Exams. You can't sit around playing with her for weeks at a time waiting for the perfect moment. Ask her out. Get a yes or a no. And close the case.
 

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It sounds like you have a nice, friendly interaction with this girl, which is fine if you are looking to place yourself in the friend zone.

You need to build some attraction with this girl. Flirt, bust on her, have fun, raise her IL (interest level). Push/Pull, ****y/funny...use all of it. Generic conversation isn't going to get you anywhere. Once you have her attention, THEN you can escalate and move on to the 'date'...just make sure you are cool about it.
 

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stop analysing this to death. You know what needs to be done, now just man up and do it. If you don't get the response you wanted, then give yourself a slap on the back for having the balls to ask.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Always
Be
Closing
 

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eh...i eff'd this one up. no sexual tension at all. probably bored the crap out of her. ball game over

unless there is a way to get this back...
 

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eh...i eff'd this one up. no sexual tension at all. probably bored the crap out of her. ball game over

unless there is a way to get this back...
 

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....next, move along
 

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Here's the silver lining: as you become better at nexting women, women become worse at nexting you.

The strength you develop from resistance (in every affair of life) is the eventual source of your triumph.

Verily, we climb towards success on a mountain of failures.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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