"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I can't believe what just happened

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Ok, so I was walking back to my car from circuit city (where I just got off of work). It was around 10:30 at night. I see these 2 hot chicks walking towards me. On has brown hair and is about an 8. The other, holy crap is insanly hot. She has this amazing face with really long blonde hair. I sort of pretend I don't really see them and keep heading to my car. Then one of them asks me

girl:do you know if theres a bus stop around here?
me: yeah theres one across the street
girl: o really, hey is this your car?
me: yeah
girl: do you think you could take us to six flags
me: umm i think its closed but ok
they put their shopping bags in my car and get in
girl: auctually could you take us to our apartment, its not that far
me: yeah sure

then we start talking and I find out their both russian here till september. their working at six flags for the summer. both had really nice personalities. the brunette was named ana and the blonde kata. we finnally get to their apartment and I stop

me: ok here we are i guess (i'm expecting them to leave and that would be it)
girl: do you want to drive back some time to see us
me: (kinda shocked) yeah that would be cool, do you guys have cell phones?
girls: no all we have is mail
me: email?
girl: no just mail from the box
me: umm ok
me: so uh what days are you free?
they got hard to understand becuase they got their am and pm screwed up but apparently they work every day 2pm to 11pm
me:sucky hours there isn't really a good time
girl: you could just come after midnight when don't you work
me: next day i have off ismonday
girl: come next monday after twelve
me: ok sounds good

they get out say thanks a lot and say they will see me on monday
I drive away sort of in shock

so what should i do here. It looks like i'll be alone with two hot russian chicks in their apartment. both of them are a year older than me. do you think i have a chance? i'll have to read them better on monday night but i'm really hoping something will happen
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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look, guy this is going to hurt you after I tell you this: they just used you for a ride home. Plain and simple. You dont have a chance in heck with either of them. If you like more help just hit me up on my aim or something peace
 

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yeah thats what i thought too. i just don't know why they were insistant on me coming back. as soon as I got them to their place i was ready to split.
 

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Stoic_Mo said:
I think Ive seen this same story play out in a porno.

haha yeah huh?


but believe me homeboy they are using you, getting you ready to be their driver for the rest of the summer

hard but tru. I have an ebook you should read. if you would like it hit me up
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yeah your probably right. But hey, what the hell at least I can get some more expierance talking to girls.
 

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Where the **** do you live? Because i'm about to fly out there.. lol

I've had some experience with a russian girls (8,9s) in my AFC days. Basically I lucked out being an American in Eastern Europe, so I didn't need to be a DJ to get with them. Forget any stereotypes about russian women being more lady-like or traditional. It's not true. Don't think about marriage or any stupid **** like that. They probably are just looking for fun and/or a sucker to take his money. I would guess they are just trying to get your cash. (which of course is what the russian chicks i was with were after.. they didnt get much, i'm incredibly cheap.. lol)

Don't be a chump.. if they are working at 6 flags they are constantly around other horny AFC males. They have no problem getting guys and don't flatter yourself, they didn't try so hard to pick you up because you are a prize. Seriously watch out for being scammed, these russian girls probably grew up under horrible circumstances and operate on their own survival instincts. They see sex as a tool and manipulate men to get what they want.

I'll give you my advice. I don't claim to be a DJ yet or anything. But this is what I did when I was an AFC in europe to get laid by these russian girls. And i'm not proud of what i did, but at the time I was incredibly frustrated because I was a total chump with women, so I devised these schemes to take advantage of them and get laid.

What I did was pretty simple.

1. Appear as an easy mark, aka AFC. (I did this naturally, so it took no effort on my part)
2. Demonstrate you are willing to give them your money.
3. Put them in a situation where you can force them to give you sex or its all over.

So here's my plan if i were in your situation.

1. Plan to meet them at their place at midnight.
2. Go buy some booze (vodka), chocolates, and a gift for each of them. Some cheap clearance stuff at target. BTW its actually common manners in russia to give gifts when you first meet a family.
3. Act like a total AFC, when you meet them. Ask them about their background, act like you deeply care about their situation. Make promises to help them out, give them rides, financial help, loans, tell them your dad owns rental property they might be able to use for free, well you get the idea.
4. Try to get them to drink enough so they are buzzed and goofy, but not drunk. Also you should just sip the stuff and dont drink much.
5. By now you should be touchy-feely with them and when they get separated, go in for the kill. Making-out, feeling her up, make it clear you are demanding sex.
6. You have to dominate the situation now. If she protests or makes up excuses. Tell her she has deeply hurt your feelings, you feel betrayed, misled, and threaten to never see her again, tell her you thought she was special and you were planning to buy her a diamond necklace. Then she'll freak out, she'll be afraid she's wasted her time on you and she won't be getting money out of you.
7. Next bang the **** out of them for hours, you brought some viagra didn't you?

Yep, I was a total scumbag. But this stuff only works on gold diggers, so who cares? :rockon:
 

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arglebargle said:
Where the **** do you live? Because i'm about to fly out there.. lol

I've had some experience with a russian girls (8,9s) in my AFC days. Basically I lucked out being an American in Eastern Europe, so I didn't need to be a DJ to get with them. Forget any stereotypes about russian women being more lady-like or traditional. It's not true. Don't think about marriage or any stupid **** like that. They probably are just looking for fun and/or a sucker to take his money. I would guess they are just trying to get your cash. (which of course is what the russian chicks i was with were after.. they didnt get much, i'm incredibly cheap.. lol)

Don't be a chump.. if they are working at 6 flags they are constantly around other horny AFC males. They have no problem getting guys and don't flatter yourself, they didn't try so hard to pick you up because you are a prize. Seriously watch out for being scammed, these russian girls probably grew up under horrible circumstances and operate on their own survival instincts. They see sex as a tool and manipulate men to get what they want.

I'll give you my advice. I don't claim to be a DJ yet or anything. But this is what I did when I was an AFC in europe to get laid by these russian girls. And i'm not proud of what i did, but at the time I was incredibly frustrated because I was a total chump with women, so I devised these schemes to take advantage of them and get laid.

What I did was pretty simple.

1. Appear as an easy mark, aka AFC. (I did this naturally, so it took no effort on my part)
2. Demonstrate you are willing to give them your money.
3. Put them in a situation where you can force them to give you sex or its all over.

So here's my plan if i were in your situation.

1. Plan to meet them at their place at midnight.
2. Go buy some booze (vodka), chocolates, and a gift for each of them. Some cheap clearance stuff at target. BTW its actually common manners in russia to give gifts when you first meet a family.
3. Act like a total AFC, when you meet them. Ask them about their background, act like you deeply care about their situation. Make promises to help them out, give them rides, financial help, loans, tell them your dad owns rental property they might be able to use for free, well you get the idea.
4. Try to get them to drink enough so they are buzzed and goofy, but not drunk. Also you should just sip the stuff and dont drink much.
5. By now you should be touchy-feely with them and when they get separated, go in for the kill. Making-out, feeling her up, make it clear you are demanding sex.
6. You have to dominate the situation now. If she protests or makes up excuses. Tell her she has deeply hurt your feelings, you feel betrayed, misled, and threaten to never see her again, tell her you thought she was special and you were planning to buy her a diamond necklace. Then she'll freak out, she'll be afraid she's wasted her time on you and she won't be getting money out of you.
7. Next bang the **** out of them for hours, you brought some viagra didn't you?

Yep, I was a total scumbag. But this stuff only works on gold diggers, so who cares? :rockon:
Nice plan but I'm only 18 so a no go for the alcohal part. I think I'm just going to go to have a few laughs and thats it.
 

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AngelusPUA said:
They want to drug you, cut you open and harvest one of your organs, more likely than not it will be one of your kidneys.
No kidding, he really needs to be careful. Have you ever seen hostel? :crackup:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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silenthill said:
Nice plan but I'm only 18 so a no go for the alcohal part. I think I'm just going to go to have a few laughs and thats it.
Get someone older to buy the booze. btw where do you live?
 

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BTW, this story is a PERFECT example of why you should always try to talk to hot women. Atleast say HI. Who knows what could fall into your lap because of it.
 

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Do i think you have a chance? What? The fvck are you talking about? You were just asked to come over and fvck their brains out. It's done. Chance?
 

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dude, i'd see your situation of women approaching you asking for a date, to be the same as you walking up to a woman in a bar and having a 3 min chat to her then gettin her phone number. You don't have be funny or do ne dj stuff to the full to get her phone number.

So now when you go to their place at 12, u do some dj stuff, act ****y & funny, or do whatever u can do, and you'll be in a good situation.
 

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i would suggest you just go hang out with them or whatever and see what ends up happening.you have nothing to lose unless you actually start spending money on them or driving them places..then your getting used
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Well I went yesterday. First off they auctually lived with 7 other girls. They got there like 20min after I got there. 4 of the girls and I went to some party like 40min away. It was a big college party. They kept asking if I wanted anything to drink but of course I couldn't since I was driving back. We left the party at 4am. Got lost, I was tired as hell so we stopped for about a half an hour. Finnally got back at 6am. Yeah I drove them there, but I got to go to a sweet party out of it, and we were talking pretty good on the way there. ****y funny is impossible to pull off becuase they don't really understand what your saying.

It wasn't what I was expecting but it was a pretty fun night.
 

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What the ****. Are you ****ing kidding me?

They live with 7 hot girls. You went to a party with FOUR girls a HUGE college party. They offered you drinks. They told you to come to their house at 12.

what the ****.

First off to all the AFCs saying they are just using him, shut the hell up. Not only did they approach him, but they trusted him enough to hop in his car that late at night? If that doesn't scream, **** ME to you all, then you're just not going to get laid. Are you sure they weren't drunk then?

ARE YOU SURE YOU WEREN'T DRUNK!?

Listen, there are 7 girls there, if you make friends with some of them, they will certainly hook you up with ONE of them.

BTW out of those 7 girls none of them have a car? I don't think they are using you man, but even if they are, use THEM to meet the other 5 girls in the house.

I can't believe that s hit man, they took you to a college party and not only let you drive them home, but introduced you to their 7 roomates. Good God, I would think that instinct would have kicked in by then, you don't need a technique for EVERYTHING.
 

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I will break it down for ya in a simpler term.... If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. I am not trying to hate on you either. Sometimes, shyt like this happens and you will let your defenses down, DON'T DO IT!
 

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Based on what you wrote, I'd say:

Either you are getting used BIG TIME, either you are missing the clear positive signals BIG TIME.
Either you are a big lousy sucker, either you are an extremely lucky SOB.

From what you wrote, I can't tell which case is true.

Next time, make a move, I repeat make a move! Then you will know.


Oh, by the way, from how you described the first encounter, I need to ask you this: are you a good looking guy? Be honest.
If you are not, then I'm 99.99% sure that you are just being used.:whistle:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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