"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I can't attract girls...
- Thread starter ChrizZ
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Thus this started the negative belief cycle. Some rejection in childhood.ChrizZ said:The chicks I like have been rejecting me since kindergarten.
If you believe something strong enough, then it may actually happen.ChrizZ said:I believe it's just not meant for me to pull hot chicks.
Sort of like the "Secret" concept.
The reason some guys have lots of success with girls is because they already have unconciously or subconciously accepted that they are successful and will continue to be successful since they give off the vibrations that reverberate such success and have a positive-loop. (Not necessary girls wanting what other girls want - that's a by-product of the positive-loop) While, other guys, such as yourself, and even myself, have a negative-loop, and our frequencies will result in scenerios which occur over and over again.
The key to is to change the frequency to change the results. According to the "Secret" - be thankful of every positive interaction - if you got a girl to laugh with you - be happy about that - whatever you get, and build from there. Visualise being successful and having women with you -- there are other techniques in that book as well.
I hope you got a refund, or you got the Deangelo products for free since they have turned out to be a total flop. You are doing cold approaches through right? You dont know how these other guys meet these girls - it may not have been cold approaches.Chrizz said:Everyday I see even ugly guys having average to hot women as girlfriends and they act totally boring around them. I just don't know what else I could do to become better with women. Any ideas?
C+F has to be used cautiously against girls that are in the average range, looks-wise, because they may not have the inner-security to handle it.NickSCFC2000 said:Maybe if you're good looking your c&f puts them off, makes you look arrogant.
yea i agree with with nick. Dont be a try hard. just chill and be a cool guy. also the ****y and funny works but with girls that are hot as you. if they are not at your level dont be too ****y.NickSCFC2000 said:Maybe if you're good looking your c&f puts them off, makes you look arrogant.
DJ1234
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
DJ1234
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GoSens said:You're basically saying that if a girl isn't initially attracted to you because of your looks, you usually just don't bother? You realize that you have more than just the first impression to display attractive qualities, right?
I think he meant more on the lines of you do just about everything to attract a girl, not just displaying your looks (but more attractive qualities) and she still won't comply or go out with you, like you never had a chance and won't ever have a chance then you just don't bother...but you're right that you def. have more than just the first impression to make it right with a girl...
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DJ1234 said:If you aren't already try making it more obvious that you're interested in the target and KINO KINO KINO you never said whether or not you're kinoing in your OP...they might not be interested in you because they can't tell if you're just being friendly....
Couldn't that also work against him or anyone else who's trying to attract a shy girl or a girl with low self esteem. Most women are initially shy or reserved around a guy even if they like him b/c they don't want to appear too eager (or look like a sl*t). And if a guy comes on too strong they'll assume he's either a player or desperate. Better to try it differently with different women IMO. And if she's shy a nice smile will probably work better than kino or c&f.
If you never get any AIs or IOIs to begin with - your appearance (looks + style) probably needs work.
If you do get some of those, but they lose interest after you open your mouth - your voice may need work.
Basically, your problem usually lies at your sticking point or 1 step before it.