I can get their numbers, but dates afterwards are a problem

[Vice]

So I finally got over the hurtle of approaching women. It's fair to say that I have that down. Not consistently, but I have it taken take of much better than compared to last year, or even a few months ago.

But, my new sticking point is getting them to go out with me.

And I'm sure it's something that I'm doing wrong.

At first I was needy and called too quickly or too often, and now I think I wait too long after I get the number to call.

Or maybe I didn't build enough attraction or comfort with the girls.

One thing that sets me at a slight disadvantage is that my phone doesn't get good reception where I live, so I can't call anyone without my phone dropping the call or even connecting, so I end up calling like three or four times because I'm not sure if the signal went through.

Anyone else experience something similar (not the phone issue)? I was thinking that the best way to avoid the problems I've been having is to go on an instant date right then and there.

I've gone through so many new girls in the past few weeks that I don't even care about the ones I met from last week or so if they don't answer or show interest, but I am yet to go out on a single date.

 

[AAAgent]

first thing i learned that when i call a girl i give myself a checklist of things i need to do.

1.) this girl must know me. no matter how you get the number you have to somehow have met the girl and she must know who you are. If you don't atleast meet this requirement she'll most likely think of you as a creeper.

2.) If she does know you or atleast you think she knows you, you should get decent confirmation that you are atleast somebody in her mind and not "oh you're that guy that was with that guy.". If you only met her for 10 seconds and just introduced yourself as "AAAgent." and get her number through a friend, don't call her.

basically make sure she definitely knows and has a decent memory of who you are.

3.) The number exchange is the best way for you to get her to remember you. Do it directly yourself. This way you both have each others numbers saved and when you do call her your name comes up. This also reminds her of who you are.

4.) When i call a girl i make sure i meet the above requirements and on top of that i make sure i give off no perception of being needy, showing interest in them, or any bad qualities.

I call them probably a week or two later. Most of the time i probably bump into them once or twice after i've already had their number and just say hi and re-introduce myself as to remind them of who i am.

When i call, i ask them out pretty directly to let them know of my intentions.

here's an example of what has happened in the past.

i called this girl up randomly 3 weeks after we met. i saw her twice.

me: hey hb.
hb: hey AAAgent. how are you doing?
me: i'm good. what are you up to? how's work been.
hb: nothing much. just surfing youtube. works been hectic, it's work after all.
me: haha that sucks. what are you doing later this week?
hb: umm.. i'm not sure yet. don't have anything planned.
me: Well i was wondering if you wanted to get dinner.
hb: haha(she's definitely surprised). what's the occasion.
me: well i figured i'd probably be hungry around that time and you would be too, so what better way to fix that problem then dinner right?
hb: haha okay. what time?


not exactly perfect but it worked.
from what i've experience and learned i realized that girls like spontaneity. spur of the moment stuff really catches them off guard and doesn't let them prepare. Plus when they know little about you, you have less things they can use against you to disqualify your chances.

 

[Jitterbug]

You're not doing anything wrong after getting the number. Usually it's what you did before getting the number. Like this:

Or maybe I didn't build enough attraction or comfort with the girls.

There has to be enough attraction, comfort, *rapport* and a compelling reason why she wants to see you again.

Also, it's easier to get her to hang out with you at a low pressure social event first, then progress to a one-on-one date.

Girls hand out their numbers like free candies. If you open your mouth to ask, they'll give it to you. Newbies here tend to make a big deal out of getting numbers, but it means nothing. Instead, focus on fun and rapport and lead that to a good reason why you two should catch up again soon.

 

[Vice]

Newbies here tend to make a big deal out of getting numbers, but it means nothing. Instead, focus on fun and rapport and lead that to a good reason why you two should catch up again soon.

Well it looks like I've made the transgression from newbie, because a phone number doesn't mean nearly as much as it did months ago. Now it's just like a "this one's probably going to flake anyway" attitude.

 

[horaholic]

Whenever you go to an event, or party or something, send a mass text out to all your girls #'s of whats going on. You might catch one or two that are bored, or maybe one or two were going to the event anyway, and it gives you an excuse to talk to them some more.

 

[jdollarthegreat]

Real talk, this is how I see it. When u first meet a girl u gotta know specifically what u want from her down to a t. For example, like if what made u approach her was cause she was sexy then your goal must be sex or something. So u already getting numbers so thats a good thing but you just need a little more swag and understanding about dis ****. Now when u meet a girl and exchange numbers shes just as excited as you are to meet somebody new so don't give the girl all the power. Now where most guys lose is they think they gotta be texting/calling these girls for weeks before they get any action. Real talk u gotta create that action and the first couple of days is the best time because the girl knows little about u and ur just a mysterious sexy guy to her. So boom, u got the number the next time u contact her should be to set up a meeting. It don't gotta be like you takin her out to eat or no sucka **** like that it can be like u picking her up and yall sit in da car and chill or take her to the pier or a lovers lane spot or something to chill and vibe out together and then u try to escalate from there. This should be done in the first 2-3 days of meeting cause she doesn't know anything about u and thats what excites her. So when u bang her in the first 4 days she gonna feel like a mysterious sexy guy just swept her off her feet. Now its up to u to decide on what u wanna do cause u got sex and that was ya goal.
If you believe the girl is gonna flake then just go for it anyway bro. You have nothing to lose and sex to gain. If your getting all these numbers to try and get sex then take this advice but if u tryna build something I wouldn't recommend this route lol.