"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I am so confused....

keemojung

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I met this girl one night at the club.

We ended up having sex.

She seemed to be enjoy my company with her. (Lots of kino, eye contact)

I also like her, not just wanna bang her and leave.

However, she rarely call me first instead it is me who call to offer a date.

The thing is if she wants to get in LTR then im ok with that

but if she just want to be my f-buddy, im still ok.

She once said that she can like me but she can't love me.

She still doesn't open her heart for me yet.

Im wondering she is playing hard to get or is not sure about me

so she is not open her heart for me yet. (she hardly know my personal info

everytime she ask me abt personal question i will answer indirectly)

What if I try to be more sincere with her, do u think the game would change

and how?

I also spin my plates with another 2-3 girls but if this girl becomes more

serious then I will be more serious with her and stop bang other chicks.

I just wanna experience how it feel when you have a real lover, not just

f-buddy like I have nowadays.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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sounds like she just wants to be a f-buddy. if you pressure her in any way about a relationship, the sex will stop. she probably doesnt want to be tied down, so enjoy the sex while it lasts, and hopefully she will eventually turn around.
 

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thevilittletroll said:
sounds like she just wants to be a f-buddy. if you pressure her in any way about a relationship, the sex will stop. she probably doesnt want to be tied down, so enjoy the sex while it lasts, and hopefully she will eventually turn around.
so u are saying that i shouldn't talk about anything LTR at all.

Let her bring up the topic about LTR first if she wants to be serious abt that,

right?


And what do u mean by she will eventually turn around?
 

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keemojung said:
so u are saying that i shouldn't talk about anything LTR at all.

Let her bring up the topic about LTR first if she wants to be serious abt that,

right?


And what do u mean by she will eventually turn around?
yes let her bring up LTR talk first, otherwise you'll just scare her off. i'm saying if you want an LTR with this girl, be patient and hopefully she will too.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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EvilAgenda said:
You just met her... and your expect her to fall head over heels in love with you?

Dude, come on, give it time and let it naturally grow.
Well I just don't get it with this chick since every chick I have banged

become attached to me after I have banged her.

Yesterday, she called me and said that why did i just disappear and

she said she miss me and she invited me to go clubbing with her best

friend and her. She wanted me to be there and took care of her but I

refused and said I got some work to do tomorrow. She also said didn't i

feel worried if she go clubbing and she might not go home alone and i said

well no problem, i hope u have fun there.

What do u think abt this and what would u do if u were to be me?
 

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I think she was testing you. It's probably game over. You were a bit too cold and showed her that you don't care. You couldve just gone out and gotten laid maybe even a threesome (depending on your game). If another girl says that to you just keep it light and fun. I would go something like: "how would I feel if you don't go home alone? Well, it'll defenitely change my view of you. I mean if this is a habit, you have some issues sweetheart" That will make her feel embarrast and won't really show any clinging or signs of trying to get serious.
Another thing. Relationships and f-budding its always best when the two of you don't really talk about it. That way you can go back and forward between the two.
 

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Pilo said:
I think she was testing you. It's probably game over. You were a bit too cold and showed her that you don't care. You couldve just gone out and gotten laid maybe even a threesome (depending on your game). If another girl says that to you just keep it light and fun. I would go something like: "how would I feel if you don't go home alone? Well, it'll defenitely change my view of you. I mean if this is a habit, you have some issues sweetheart" That will make her feel embarrast and won't really show any clinging or signs of trying to get serious.
Another thing. Relationships and f-budding its always best when the two of you don't really talk about it. That way you can go back and forward between the two.
I don't understand that you said

"I would go something like: "how would I feel if you don't go home alone? Well, it'll defenitely change my view of you. I mean if this is a habit, you have some issues sweetheart" That will make her feel embarrast and won't really show any clinging or signs of trying to get serious. "

So would u plz clarify me?

Yesterday, she called me:

her: why are u disappeared?

me: haha u missed me?

her: errr don't u feel guilty at all to make someone misss u?
(I don't understand her -*-)

She then invited me to go clubbing with another one girl which is her best friend. She wanted me to be there to take care of her but i said no coz i got some work to do tomorrow. I said my dream is more important than short-term happiness.

her: well what kind of happiness u are talkin abt?

me: haha u know what im talkin abt

(we then have a lil sexual chitchat abt her breast size and finally she can't stand that and said I didn't call u to talk abt this kind of stuff with her playful tone)

her: aren't u feel worried if I didn't go home alone.

me: no problem and hope u have fun


Was she trying to test me? I don't think my game is over yet.

How should i run my game with this chick?

Right now my plan is keep it light and enjoy sex with her and be patient

until she bring up the topic abt LTR.

Feedback please....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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keemojung said:
Right now my plan is keep it light and enjoy sex with her and be patient

until she bring up the topic abt LTR.

Feedback please....
Yes. Do that.

What else is there to say?

A man should never bring up the topic of LTR. That's a girl's role. Enjoy her how she is. Maybe she asks you for a LTR. Maybe she doesn't. But either way, you're having fun and having sex.

You should have more serious things to worry about in your life than a "serious" relationship.
 

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"She once said that she can like me but she can't love me."



*insert Red Flag icon here*
 

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The_411 said:
"She once said that she can like me but she can't love me."



*insert Red Flag icon here*
Aha then what is your suggestion bro?
 

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hores, much like honey badgers, don't give a sh!t. One d1ck in the miles of the many she's had. Stop being all emo and toughen up. Screw her and go meet other women.
 
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