"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I am really trying....

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To find a way out of this. I don't know what it is. Maybe it is just pressure from the world,and my own confusion. I read the last post in this:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=149496&page=2

So,if you aren't a jerk,you don't have a chance? Or,it's a slower process?

and it struck me. Very good point. So it is about finding the balance then? Plus,what is up with pook and his website?

I mean,I want a long lasting thing,but is it in today's world,people just don't do it,and how much of that has to do with "women's liberation"etc??

I mean,I watch this,http://www.vh1.com/video/play.jhtml?id=1598661&vid=292415, and it both inspires me and annoys me,annoys me about what I haven't been doing and how trapped I feel.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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magickarl

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Ok dude. Here is some point blank, straight to the heart advice. Follow it, and I swear you'll get laid.

Get $50. Go to a truck stop. Flash your brights into the lot. When the woman approaches your car, flash her the money and she will get in. **** her.

Or do this:

Stop thinking of this whole thing as some sort of process or formula that you need to memorize. Men have been getting laid for thousands of years now. Way before the internet was invented, if you can believe that. Why, even if your grandfather and his father before him got laid.

First of all. Forget about women. Drop the notion that a woman is going to drop out of the sky, make you happy, and then all of your problems will be solved. You cannot keep a woman happy if you are not happy with yourself.

You need to go out and do things that make you happy. Set goals for yourself (physical, career-oriented, hobbies or otherwise) and do them. Start small, but work your way up towards the moon. THESE THINGS ARE FROM THIS POINT ON TO BE REGARDED FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WOMEN WILL EVER BE TO YOU. YOUR HAPPINESS IS PARAMOUNT, AND YOU SHOULD BE CONSTANTLY IN PURSUIT OF IT. WOMEN ARE NOT EVEN SECONDARY, THEY SHOULD BE BEHIND YOU, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR RELIGION, YOUR CAREER, YOUR FRIENDS, AND EVEN YOUR DOG UNTIL THEY PROVE THEMSELVES TO BE PUT IN FRONT OF IT.

Then you need to make friends. Lots of them. Then make friends with their friends, and friends with their friends after that. Meet a lot of people. Talk to a lot of people. Some of the people you meet may be women. Don't sweat it or worry about clever icebreakers or kino or escalating or anything like that. Talk to them like they are regular people. You knew how to do it at one time (Think kindergarten - 3rd grade)

Talk to women you have met, you already know them, so go ahead and do it. Find out things they like to do, and do those things with them. If you get friendzoned, big deal. You are learning how to interact with women like they are anybody else. Joke with them, smile at them, and talk to a lot of them. Tease them, flirt with them, whatever. Don't push for anything though. Just get a feel for how its done. Give some of your woman friends back-rubs. Don't worry about it, your JUST FRIENDS right?

Some of your woman friends may even try to hook you up with their girlfriends . If this happens to you, take the bait. Worst case scenario is that you will earn yourself a learning experience.

Go out and talk to women. Ask them to do things with you. Don't romanticize the process like its something hard to do. It isn't.
 

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I dont think the sexual dynamic was ever supposed to be this thought out. Its in man's nature to be a man and its in women's nature to be a woman. Dont let society fool you into thinking its more complicated than it is. Ive seen the basic ideas of human nature work when it comes to building sexual relationships. As men it is our job to build our Kingdom and as women it is their job to be our queen. Its as simple as that. All the rest is bull$hit.
 

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CC,
you say you are 'trying' to 'find' a way out of this..

But what are you doing, actively, to change your life?

Do you realize that the majority ofyour time is spent thinking, and bemoaning, and whining, instead of any action?


Do you understand how you have CREATED your conditions???
do you see now how you continue to propagate your condition, by going so deep inside your head and coming up with excuse after excuse, and issue after issue, until you have wiped yourself out in some sort of self emasculating, effacing dementia?

YOU are your greatest obstacle.

You are obsessed with 'thinking' and analyzing, thinking that ruminating over and over and over about your condition , it actually helps any...

you are mistaken to think that your obsessive thinking and over analyzing is doing anything but promoting more misery in your life.

I believe they call it obsessive left brain thinking..
and you have it.

And you need to balance that with something creative, and enjoyable.

I am positive you have no life.
No friends.
you dont work out, or play sports, or train martial arts, yoga..
you certainly dont meditate..
you dont have any sort of hobbies whatsoever....

Of course, if you live in those conditions, and DO NOTHING about them, and then simply OBSERVE them...
they wont change.
They wont change on their own.

CC, WHO owns your life?

I mean, who is responsible for your life?
Do you know?


It's YOU.
All you, man.


It IS true, that we should follow the Be, Do and Have paradigm.
So I do agree that mental work on oneself has to be done.
But you're not doing that.
You are simply throwing stuff around and saying "Look how bad this is!"
But doing nothing to change.

It wont change on it's own.

And also, your life is completely UNIQUE.
The comparisons you are making are self limiting and self defeating.

While you can gauge progress by observing others, your comparisons are only serving to belittle yourself and disempower yourself.

Start living YOUR life.And stop trying to create a life of imitating others.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Well,what you all of said has hit home. In a good and bad way,and yes,I am obssesed with this/these problem(s). I have been for so long that letting go and finding a solution has seemingly become very hard. I just feel,idk,not good enough or seriously behind everyone else,or a lack of self confidence.

What you said about guy's getting laid before the interner was involved,obviously that's true,but how come some are more successful at it than others? Why is it some people like me,are always so lonely and everyone else isn't,I feel alot of this is the fact that we live in a more increasingly superficial materialistic world.

I realize I have had alot of work to do on myself,esp being happy with myself,that has been quite a problem. Idk,perhaps I am dependent on something else,like people,for that.

You talk about making freinds with women,people,etc. It has seemingly been rather hard for me over the years,both due to trust issues and bitterness. I mean,you talk about women trying to set you up with there freinds and such,something that hasn't been a luxury for me,idk,maybe it is something about myself. I see what you are saying,and that is what has gotten me angry and bitter over the years. I have more to say later.


Yeah,I realize I have spent more time worrying/thinking etc,rather than taking action. That's what else kills me,is all this time put off w/o ever really having reached much I would have liked to by now,for many reasons. I do now realize how I have created this myself,but I still feel bitter towards people/the world for many reasons. I guess it's old wounds. Esp like you said,yeah,no life,few freinds,etc. I have been told before I am my own worst enemy,idk what you say to/call that. I have some hobbies. But I have a thing about groups/hobbies/people,I believe often times,there is alot of superficialness about alot of it.

I mean,maybe I can't get a way out of this,like you said,"Do you understand how you have CREATED your conditions???
do you see now how you continue to propagate your condition, by going so deep inside your head and coming up with excuse after excuse, and issue after issue, until you have wiped yourself out in some sort of self emasculating, effacing dementia?"

I realize I am responsible for myself,but idk,it could be something else. Yeah,I am trying to say look how bad this is,but it is cause I want help with it. Idk,not making comparisons is hard for me. I mean,I know I have to get myself out of this,but I blame others/the world for different reasons as well often. I mean,does my thinking really come off as that backward? Perhaps it comes from being too hard on myself. I just want a way out of this. Alot of it has come from a feeling of a lack of success,esp in the personal area,and with women/girls dating. I mean,it's hard.

I am also concerned about how much viewing porn over the years has shaped/affected this. Also,long term periods of isolation,like to where I would barely go out at all. I mean,it's like I have then,and still now,almost forgotten how to connect w/people. Like I just don't care,I see them as these superficial,idiot,followers,talking about stuff I don't give a fukk about,therefore,they shouldn't.

This part here too: "Talk to women you have met, you already know them, so go ahead and do it. Find out things they like to do, and do those things with them. If you get friendzoned, big deal. You are learning how to interact with women like they are anybody else. Joke with them, smile at them, and talk to a lot of them. Tease them, flirt with them, whatever. Don't push for anything though. Just get a feel for how its done. Give some of your woman friends back-rubs. Don't worry about it, your JUST FRIENDS right" It's like I never had the skills,personality,or maybe even the looks for that. I feel like socially,things are/were/have been set against me almost,thus leading to these feelings. I mean,years have gone by,and this problem remains. I feel like I missed out on the early 20's and all that,so it has led to much bitterness in me.

I mean,it's not like I chose career over personal life,or had much of either to begin with,so it feels like a double stack against me. I mean,as for hobbies/activities,idk,I gues maybe I never had much of an interest in things,or,I never found an outlet,that's what has killed me,is everyone else has,And I haven't. I mean,yeah. I am obsessing again. I mean,this is a feeling of feeling like an undesirable freak who isn't worthy of love,affection,connection(s),while everyone else has it,and I am alone. Like I am apart from the species. I mean,it's not like I chose this,it's more like I can't,as in can't get laid whereas everyone else has and is so experienced,and I am so far behind. I mean,it's more like what I haven't been doing to really try and improve myself,esp in regards to going out,approaching,etc. It always seemed to me you either could get it or not,I think you know how I feel where I fall. I mean,maybe it was certain social enviroments,I have not put in nearly as much effort as I should have,I mean even before,to try and solve this problem,and look at other guys who are my age,and have already been with someone 2,3 years.


"I dont think the sexual dynamic was ever supposed to be this thought out. Its in man's nature to be a man and its in women's nature to be a woman. Dont let society fool you into thinking its more complicated than it is. Ive seen the basic ideas of human nature work when it comes to building sexual relationships. As men it is our job to build our Kingdom and as women it is their job to be our queen. Its as simple as that. All the rest is bull$hit." Yeah,but what does it mean to be a man? Is it physical? Mental? Alpha? Well,as for building a kingdom,what if you don't have one,and what if you get used? I see women as lying,superficial users who only want power,and will take it away.
 
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Dude. I was in the same state as you 4-5 years ago. If you are still in high school...JOIN A SPORT. I joined cross country and track and field. got my mile time all the way to 5 minutes!! It really helped me get my frusteration out.

I needed more though. I was short, 5 7-8', weighed 110 pounds!! I realized that if you are already short you need to get some confidence. You CANT be intimidated by all those bigger/taller people. THat is one of the biggest problems I still face today. That was a good 2-3 years ago. All i can say man is that what REALLY turned my life around was getting bigger. I worked out insane and became a food nut.

My confidence came along with my weight. Im not like the other PUAs here. I have a long way to go. But one of the most imporant things I did to get myself out of this mindset was hit the gym!!! You'll learn so much about yourself and get so much confidence. After you are a good weight for your height, get new clothes and start sarging!!

On a side note the "pook book" really opened my eyes about what "being a man" really is. With the knowledge of "being a man" and gaining some serious mass, I am sure you will get all the confidence you need to get out of this rut.
 
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