Royal Elite
Banned
I've already read that, A-unit post a lot of interesting thought provoking and mentally stimulating post.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I am not God
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
Did Bruce Lee become as good as he did just by DOING?
No
He trained, studied and philosophised. Looked at his own training introspectively and looked outside at other styles of fighting. He become a good by TRAINING and THOUGHT.
Let me refer back to Royal elites quote
Train enough, think enough, soon enough you will JUST DO IT. By metamorphosis you will become a natural, as fighter you apply all by instinct.
There is no success, when there is one without the other.
This is different from paralysis of analysis
Kaine
il_duce
Master Don Juan
You're both correct...it is better to just "do" something than to think or dwell on it, but you gotta make sure that what you're "doing" is done the right way in the first place. There are really four steps in the learning process when it comes to decision making, the first part is the method our mind uses, and the second part is the outcome.
1) Unconscious(natural) / wrong decision
2) Conscious / wrong decision
3) Conscious / right decision
4) Unconscious(natural) / right decision
Step 4 is what we would call having "natural game." Instinct. At that point you're doing everything right on an unconscious level. Once you're at that level, there's really no need for you to even be on this site imho, at least when it comes to women. No wonder Pook left.
The point I'm trying to make is that if you are still an AFC, you're going to have to teach yourself the right way to get women, through techniques like C&F and also through your own experience. With enough practice, it will come natural to you, eventually. Then you will just be "doing" without "thinking" about it.
Read the book Psycho Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz and you'll see what I'm talking about here.
Good post btw
1) Unconscious(natural) / wrong decision
2) Conscious / wrong decision
3) Conscious / right decision
4) Unconscious(natural) / right decision
Step 4 is what we would call having "natural game." Instinct. At that point you're doing everything right on an unconscious level. Once you're at that level, there's really no need for you to even be on this site imho, at least when it comes to women. No wonder Pook left.
The point I'm trying to make is that if you are still an AFC, you're going to have to teach yourself the right way to get women, through techniques like C&F and also through your own experience. With enough practice, it will come natural to you, eventually. Then you will just be "doing" without "thinking" about it.
Read the book Psycho Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz and you'll see what I'm talking about here.
Good post btw
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
No YOU did not interpret the whole meaning of this philosophy.
"“knowledge is not enough, we must apply, Willing is not enough we must do”
This means that KNOWLEDGE, WILL and DOING is the triangle of success.
He does not imply DOING is the only ingredient, but a missing ingredient.
Read my post properly, I am addressing Royal elites point of ignoring strategy and thought and JUST doing in order for success.
Kaine
Royal Elite
Banned
Let me say something that may be kind of shocking to some:
In the grand scheme of things having great game is of no real importance
I agree with the entire thinking AND Doing things when it is necessary, but when it comes to this, all the stretagy is B.S.
Cat's make plans as if they are going to storm the beach of normandy when it comes to seduction.
Sure it's "fun" but too many of us put "wayyyy" too much importance on trying to "Game" women.
It doesnt take all of this to simply find a ltr, or someone to share your life with which I agree in life IS important. But just to bang HOT CHICKS it is fun, it is enjoyable, but it is not important.
Stop taking this whole thing sooooo serious. If you put this much energy into things of importance and relevance most of us here would be advancing at work, school, and just in life.
So when I say be a do'er and don't worry about thinking, Im not talking about life, or anything as important, Im talking about on things as trival of how long do I wait before I approach her, or should I say "give me your number" or "can I have your number" or "may I have your mumber".
Stop taking this whole thing sooooo serious. If you put this much energy into things of importance and relevance most of us here would be advancing at work, school, and just in life.
man that staement right there is true, if i and my ex-roommate had put much effort on our studies instead of chasing skirts evry night. we would have been through university by now. thank god im on the right track now. and graduating this year.
man that staement right there is true, if i and my ex-roommate had put much effort on our studies instead of chasing skirts evry night. we would have been through university by now. thank god im on the right track now. and graduating this year.
dearsappho
Senior Don Juan
Everything in life should be taken seriously.
Life has consequences and thus the notion of prioritsing should be taken into account.
For me personally, life isnt "just a ride" as Bill Hicks once claimed. That is just a feeble excuse to ease ones own insecurities.
To laugh off failure is the realm of illusion.
Life has consequences and thus the notion of prioritsing should be taken into account.
For me personally, life isnt "just a ride" as Bill Hicks once claimed. That is just a feeble excuse to ease ones own insecurities.
To laugh off failure is the realm of illusion.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
"You're both correct...it is better to just "do" something than to think or dwell on it, but you gotta make sure that what you're "doing" is done the right way in the first place. There are really four steps in the learning process when it comes to decision making, the first part is the method our mind uses, and the second part is the outcome.
1) Unconscious(natural) / wrong decision
2) Conscious / wrong decision
3) Conscious / right decision
4) Unconscious(natural) / right decision
Step 4 is what we would call having "natural game." Instinct. At that point you're doing everything right on an unconscious level. Once you're at that level, there's really no need for you to even be on this site imho, at least when it comes to women. No wonder Pook left.
The point I'm trying to make is that if you are still an AFC, you're going to have to teach yourself the right way to get women, through techniques like C&F and also through your own experience. With enough practice, it will come natural to you, eventually. Then you will just be "doing" without "thinking" about it."
Very nice post.
To do. To take action. To initiate. To get the ball rolling is what is most important. It does not matter if you don't succeed at times. If you "DO" you will be successful sooner or later until your game is automatic. At that time you can say to be just yourself. You come full circle.
1) Unconscious(natural) / wrong decision
2) Conscious / wrong decision
3) Conscious / right decision
4) Unconscious(natural) / right decision
Step 4 is what we would call having "natural game." Instinct. At that point you're doing everything right on an unconscious level. Once you're at that level, there's really no need for you to even be on this site imho, at least when it comes to women. No wonder Pook left.
The point I'm trying to make is that if you are still an AFC, you're going to have to teach yourself the right way to get women, through techniques like C&F and also through your own experience. With enough practice, it will come natural to you, eventually. Then you will just be "doing" without "thinking" about it."
Very nice post.
To do. To take action. To initiate. To get the ball rolling is what is most important. It does not matter if you don't succeed at times. If you "DO" you will be successful sooner or later until your game is automatic. At that time you can say to be just yourself. You come full circle.
belividere
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i think this should be re-bumped again. At least for the fact that I found it funny that a post about not over-thinking reached such deep philosophical thoughts.
You spend too much time thinking and analyzing your game and you will run short. You must just do. The way is inside of you.
Did your parents need all this analyzing of strageties to meet? Or their parents or the generations of parents before you till the dawn of time? NO.
Inside of each of you is the answer. You get to this zen zone by just acting and doing. Don't think.
I see geeks and nerds with women everyday. Did they need to consult a book of techniques just to walk over and open their mouths? NO. Yet they are still getting laid.
Why?
Cause they are listening to the inner space. They still feel fear at approaching I'm sure. But when the desire to just do overcomes all of the analytical brains objections they just act and do.
Which is the message this poster is trying to impart.
Did your parents need all this analyzing of strageties to meet? Or their parents or the generations of parents before you till the dawn of time? NO.
Inside of each of you is the answer. You get to this zen zone by just acting and doing. Don't think.
I see geeks and nerds with women everyday. Did they need to consult a book of techniques just to walk over and open their mouths? NO. Yet they are still getting laid.
Why?
Cause they are listening to the inner space. They still feel fear at approaching I'm sure. But when the desire to just do overcomes all of the analytical brains objections they just act and do.
Which is the message this poster is trying to impart.
PRMoon
Master Don Juan
I don't think ruling out forcasting completely is the right idea. I'm not saying you need to be clarvoient about the future, but I mean if you don't give yourself a good idea of what MIGHT happen then you're not really preparing yourself for the conceqences of your actions.
I plan my actions weeks in advance and I guess the outcome most of the time it goes down like I thought it would. Not saying i'm the great swami but If you replay things over in your mind about how it could potentally happen, it's like practicing anything else. Repetiton and focus will aid you when performance time is upon you. You may slip up and things may not go exactly how you want them to all the time, but you're some what prepared to adapt and change on the fly because you've thought it through.
I'll never give up on the future, because future time spent is the most precious of time that exist. You'll never be able to alter the past, and the present can only do so much for you. The future however is completely unknown and therefore has unlimited potential.
I plan my actions weeks in advance and I guess the outcome most of the time it goes down like I thought it would. Not saying i'm the great swami but If you replay things over in your mind about how it could potentally happen, it's like practicing anything else. Repetiton and focus will aid you when performance time is upon you. You may slip up and things may not go exactly how you want them to all the time, but you're some what prepared to adapt and change on the fly because you've thought it through.
I'll never give up on the future, because future time spent is the most precious of time that exist. You'll never be able to alter the past, and the present can only do so much for you. The future however is completely unknown and therefore has unlimited potential.