"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I am happy in my LTR but I have a WANDERING EYE.

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Face it...boys will be boys. I am very happy in a LTR but find it hard to keep my eyes to myself. I am constantly have a wandering eye looking at other girls and god knows what I want to do with her.

I admit I like my gal heaps and wouldnt cheat on her but find myself lusting after other girls. Luckily I dont act on it or follow through. My gal really treats me like a king and satisfies me well and I get to serve a constant thrashing to her everytime. I know for sure this gal is a keeper and has done more for me more than any of the girls Ive been with combined, yet blood pumps like a raging river inside me whenever I see a nice broad even though shes less sexier than my gal.

Is this normal or just a bad habit? It is really hard when you struggled all your life trying to get girls and BAM you suddenly have the magic pill and now your happy but still get tempted. I realise this is only lust but I need to control it.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Keep doing cause you'll drive yourself crazy trying to stop.

I do it all time, it's one of the things that keep me sane in marriage.
 
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I think its perfectly normal to do that...guys are naturally promiscuous, well atleast I am. Therefore, its hard not to look.
 

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Use it to your (and your gf's) advantage. Go ahead and look but try not to act like an American teenager at his first college spring break. "Notice" attractive women without drooling over them. When the endorphins start rolling through, go home and let your girl be the benefactor. :up:
 

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Rudy_TubeSteak said:
Is this normal or just a bad habit? It is really hard when you struggled all your life trying to get girls and BAM you suddenly have the magic pill and now your happy but still get tempted. I realise this is only lust but I need to control it.
Yup, perfectly normal! A lot of people, especially women, assume something must be wrong with the relationship if their man is tempted by another woman, or cheats even. In reality, often times not a thing is wrong. You can love, care for, desire, etc. more than one person. And those that can compartmentalize, can do so very effectively.

So, its what you do about it that's going to matter. You have to decide that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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azanon said:
Yup, perfectly normal! A lot of people, especially women, assume something must be wrong with the relationship if their man is tempted by another woman, or cheats even. In reality, often times not a thing is wrong. You can love, care for, desire, etc. more than one person. And those that can compartmentalize, can do so very effectively.

So, its what you do about it that's going to matter. You have to decide that.
I agreed with your post until you said cheat. If a man cheats, then something IS wrong.

Flirt with other girls and keep your skills sharp but when you feel that you want to fvck other girls, man-up and dump your LTR.

If you feel that you really need to fvck other girls then maybe talk to your GF about the swinger scene.
 

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I agreed with your post until you said cheat. If a man cheats, then something IS wrong.

Flirt with other girls and keep your skills sharp but when you feel that you want to fvck other girls, man-up and dump your LTR.

If you feel that you really need to fvck other girls then maybe talk to your GF about the swinger scene.
Several people disagree with me; in my post I admitted as such did I not? And I'm glad about that too. Speaking generally now, a lot of the advantage I have in this world pertain to not having a wide assortment of self-imposed rules that others have. Oh sure, I have some rules... but only the really necessary ones.

Nobility is overrated.
 

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Rudy_TubeSteak said:
Face it...boys will be boys. I am very happy in a LTR but find it hard to keep my eyes to myself. I am constantly have a wandering eye looking at other girls and god knows what I want to do with her.

I admit I like my gal heaps and wouldnt cheat on her but find myself lusting after other girls. Luckily I dont act on it or follow through. My gal really treats me like a king and satisfies me well and I get to serve a constant thrashing to her everytime. I know for sure this gal is a keeper and has done more for me more than any of the girls Ive been with combined, yet blood pumps like a raging river inside me whenever I see a nice broad even though shes less sexier than my gal.

Is this normal or just a bad habit? It is really hard when you struggled all your life trying to get girls and BAM you suddenly have the magic pill and now your happy but still get tempted. I realise this is only lust but I need to control it.
Its normal. I do it all the time lol. Its hard if shes giving me the "talk" to me look. then thats just a damn Tease!! :cry:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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LUST...is my downfall...Seriously, the cat was out of the bag a few days ago for a boys night and WHAM...I dunno how I managed to keep it in my pants. Now I know why some people get shunned for cheating when in fact they are in a loving relationship. Pure LUST.

Man, I had girls coming up to feeling me up to the point where I had to push some away...I had a HB asked me if she was too tall for me and qualifying her a'ss off and feeling me up. And then at work there are so much flirting that goes on I am too scared to go to christmas party. Yes, I have what you call the magic pill I've been longing for when I started off as a newbie AFC.

I have an awesome GF now. Sometimes I wish I never had her so I can go enjoy the bachelor life or meet her 5 years in future. But I dont want to break up with her because of nonsense lusting for other people. I am not trolling or bragging but some of you know what I mean.
 

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Rudy_TubeSteak said:
LUST...is my downfall...Seriously, the cat was out of the bag a few days ago for a boys night and WHAM...I dunno how I managed to keep it in my pants. Now I know why some people get shunned for cheating when in fact they are in a loving relationship. Pure LUST...
Lust is one of the most important things that most LTRs lack. Unfortunately when it's realized, it's sought outside of the relationship.
 

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Man, I could be in an awesome relationship with the hottest girl in the world and I would still be lusting after girls half as hot as she is.

Pity I am in a LTR, I couldv'e been in some nasty hook ups lol
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Use it to your (and your gf's) advantage. Go ahead and look but try not to act like an American teenager at his first college spring break. "Notice" attractive women without drooling over them. When the endorphins start rolling through, go home and let your girl be the benefactor. :up:
just make sure you don't let her know! Cuz that will be one sorry story
 

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Nothing wrong with having a wandering eye!! I'd be worried if it was static!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Maxtro said:
If you feel that you really need to fvck other girls then maybe talk to your GF about the swinger scene.
I'm going through the same thing that the O/P is going through. I've talked to a lot of people about this and all have pretty much said the same thing.

As a man, you're gonna look, but then you have to think about if you're willing to lose the good thing you have for something you're not really sure about. You know you wanna bang that other, but if you lose that good thing will you still be happy.

I still haven't acted on getting with any other women, but the thought of swinging has definately crossed my mind. I wanna bring other girls into the mix and I think she might be cool with it, but then it comes down to if she's gonna wanna bring other di*ks into the mix also. I'm not up for that, but if she agrees to bringing in other women, how can I fairly say no?

So, in the end, I will keep my snake in the cage and not even bring up the fact that I would like other women in our bed.
 

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just make sure you don't let her know! Cuz that will be one sorry story
If you're caught here's a response that should work 99% of the time:

"You'd look better in that outfit." :up:
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
If you're caught here's a response that should work 99% of the time:

"You'd look better in that outfit." :up:

Oooooo! That's GOOOD!:up:
 

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Oooooo! That's GOOOD!:up:
When you're a DJ you've gotta be prepared, you just can't hide what's in your nature. ;)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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