went out to a party fri. night. i wasnt feeling what i was wearing,wasn't feeling the atmosphere. i didnt approach at all. i'm going to a club wed. nite. i know there will be a lot of hot girls there. i will approach at least 5 girls. anybody got any good openers? i wanna have some canned material ready.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
i am going to sarge wed. night
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dont rely on canned material bud.
Personally dont think following this MM stuff that literally and used canned material like that.Though use some of the MMethods stuff in terms of situational openers which they teach about.
Anything about their appearance that you notice that you like,the venue itself,the band(good or bad).Make it up on the spot.Remember that an opener isnt everything.Some may disagree with me,but Ive personally seen tons of crappy ass openers with crazy results I mean take a look at Keys to the VIP,the guys there are pretty terrible most of em with openers yet they still manage to pull it off.Just remember to smile and possibly go out with a wing for mental support.
One last thing I might as well share that you could use as sort of "canned" material is something that I use frequently.Im big into psychology so I can kind of analyze people.I would do something like
Me:Haha fiesty
HB:What?
Me:Well I just took a glance at you and figured you seem like a fiesty girl.One that would snap in an instant and be ready to kick some ass I got a lil scared Im not gonna lie
HB:Haha ya I am actually sort of like that blah blah blah
^Ive used something very similar to this and gotten that reaction except ive modified it into an opener.Its money bud use it
Ive used it on like the harsh sluts and HB9's and its ideal because they usually say yes they are.Then you could get ones that say "Noooo Im never like that". BEST LINE RIGHT AFTER THAT is I get my sarcastic and goofy look and say "Be honest with me, I seem like the type of physically intimidating dude dont I?".Now Im not the biggest guy ever Im average size so this works out funny if you show your guns guaranteed a laugh
Personally dont think following this MM stuff that literally and used canned material like that.Though use some of the MMethods stuff in terms of situational openers which they teach about.
Anything about their appearance that you notice that you like,the venue itself,the band(good or bad).Make it up on the spot.Remember that an opener isnt everything.Some may disagree with me,but Ive personally seen tons of crappy ass openers with crazy results I mean take a look at Keys to the VIP,the guys there are pretty terrible most of em with openers yet they still manage to pull it off.Just remember to smile and possibly go out with a wing for mental support.
One last thing I might as well share that you could use as sort of "canned" material is something that I use frequently.Im big into psychology so I can kind of analyze people.I would do something like
Me:Haha fiesty
HB:What?
Me:Well I just took a glance at you and figured you seem like a fiesty girl.One that would snap in an instant and be ready to kick some ass I got a lil scared Im not gonna lie
HB:Haha ya I am actually sort of like that blah blah blah
^Ive used something very similar to this and gotten that reaction except ive modified it into an opener.Its money bud use it
Ive used it on like the harsh sluts and HB9's and its ideal because they usually say yes they are.Then you could get ones that say "Noooo Im never like that". BEST LINE RIGHT AFTER THAT is I get my sarcastic and goofy look and say "Be honest with me, I seem like the type of physically intimidating dude dont I?".Now Im not the biggest guy ever Im average size so this works out funny if you show your guns guaranteed a laugh
daygameguy
Master Don Juan
you can have some canned stuff from pick-up videos or books etc.. But its best to be creative. If you are not creative, you will not know how to exactly throw out the opener. In any case, you have to be creative enough to keep the conversation flowing... there is a limit to how much canned stuff you can use. I personally think of canned stuff as "fun facts". I use it to be interesting, but the game is indeed like an artform.. you have to be creative.connor32 said:went out to a party fri. night. i wasnt feeling what i was wearing,wasn't feeling the atmosphere. i didnt approach at all. i'm going to a club wed. nite. i know there will be a lot of hot girls there. i will approach at least 5 girls. anybody got any good openers? i wanna have some canned material ready.
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The best opener is going to be your entire presence, since that will be evaluated before you ever utter a word of content. You can spend all night running routines and trying to overcome an unfavorable presence, or create a powerful presence that will get your foot in the door the majority of the time. The content is important but without good delivery and a strong presence it's not enough to really create the kind of connection you're probably looking for.
Once that happens it's the idea of calibration or the flirting dance. Signals are being sent back and forth and those give you relational information. These were historically important according to some because they gave us red or green lights to proceed wthout losing face. I personally tend to assume a green light if there is any doubt at all because I've found that tends to work in my favor more oft than not.
Good Luck
Once that happens it's the idea of calibration or the flirting dance. Signals are being sent back and forth and those give you relational information. These were historically important according to some because they gave us red or green lights to proceed wthout losing face. I personally tend to assume a green light if there is any doubt at all because I've found that tends to work in my favor more oft than not.
Good Luck
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.