I am confused and lost

[J. Fuchs]

I do not know whther I want sex from a woman anymore or not. I want it but I dont understand why and I do not understand what would be so great about having sex with a woman since it is the exact same feeling as masturbating.

What about after ejaculation? After I ejaculate from masturbation, ALL thoughts of woman both sexual and romantic go away, so I would simply want her to get away from me and not touch me afterwards, and I assume women would get mad at this and possibly cry rape?

I cant understand and comprehend that there are couples and they have sexual intercourse, and schedule it. I dont understand how it is possible. It just boggles my mind that two people have intercourse. This stuff actually happens in real life and I cannot comprehend it.

I go to the park and see a couple kissing sometimes and I think "how the **** is that possible"?. I also do not understand how it is possible for me to think this way.

The fact that it is normal for a man and a woman to have sex with each other and almost everyone gets laid, goes way over my head even though I know what evolution is etc. it confuses me, partially makes me nervous and filled with angst and butterflies, partially makes me angry.

I cant get it through my head that the cute women I am passing on the street have actually had sexual intercourse. it is definately nothing to do with thinking woman are 'pure' as i was not raised in any way like that.

Also I dont understand, why would men have sex with a woman rather than masturbate? Equally, why would women have casual sex with a man when she has vibrators, dildos etc.?

One thing about me is I do not expect I would enjoy having sexual intercourse with a woman, especially aggressively. When I think of aggressively '****ign' a woman who likes it, it makes me kind of pissed off at being lied to or something even though it turns me on watching a woman who likes that. I dont understand how it would be great.

The idea seems more like a competetive sport to me rather then pleasure, you have to use a lot of physical effort. And you are basically performing. Why would someone work for a reward that consists of working itself? Equally cunnilingus seems cold and detached to me. And I would never hug a woman without me being the one who ****s her and as I have established ****ing does not appeal to me much.

Why would I want to have to thrust my hips back and forth aggressively? and it has to be aggressive because I read somewhere a woman was complaining that her partner ****ed her too slowly and gently, and that she did not like "making love". But when I am fantasizing with my pillow(which i turn 45 degrees) imagining it is a sexy woman I never think of aggressively ****ing it it is always "making love". I would simply not enjoy it. I tried it a few times(I use my hand grabbing the skin as a simulated vagina and thrust my hips while leaving my hadn in position) and did not enjoy it.

Do most women want to have hard and fast sex?

Do most women care about being bored in bed?

Despite all this I still am not happy and I gather from my fantasies and the negative feelings which follow that I do desire women. But women are clearly not like what I fantasize about, and that is going by what the methods says itself. Are there any women into just laying in bed with each other having sex?

I have already lived life without women for a long time and I do not like it. But if I have to do a "MTV Made" then I would prefer a quick suicide to be honest.

Does anyone know what I want, or can anyone sort out where my confusion and bad feelings come from? Please do not say something like 'dont be a *****'. **** YOU.

 

[Docs]

Man, you're going to die an angry old geezer....

It's not about the sex. You're a virgin (I can tell), and you say you won't enjoy it? Hmmhmm, buy your cheap waterfront property under the bridge now, you ain't going anywhere with that mindset.

What the fvck do you want with girls?

 

[synergy1]

I have never seen a case of sour grapes/ denial this bad.

keep telling yourself you don't want to have sex with women. Post on the forums hoping someone might agree with you so your jaded beliefs are confirmed.

got news for ya, you are on your own with this one. Lost doesn't even begin to describe it.

 

[J. Fuchs]

I don't know it is all very confusing. Yes I am a virgin and I also have never kissed a girl. I'm 19 by the way.

I looked up sour grapes and it says it means you deny you want something because you cannot acquire. But how do I know if I want it or not? I don't think I actually want it.

I just don't understand why a man would want to have sexual intercourse in place of hand stimulation. Why?

Why does it confuse me that people have sex instead of masturbating?

I don't know what I want, I fantasize about the female body and I jack off to pornography and sometimes the memory of women I have encountered in real life but sex just scares me you have to perform and it all sounds like such a performance like I have to work rather than pleasure.

Could someone answer this, do women need hard and fast ****ing rather than slow ****ing? I do not know if I could enjoy aggressively ****ing a woman.

Do women care about being bored in bed?

Like I said, the idea seems more like a competetive sport to me rather then pleasure, you have to use a lot of physical effort.

Why would someone work so hard for a reward that consists of working itself?

Can someone answer these questions?

 

[Docs]

Do you know why you are wondering about sex? Because it's the logic and education factor overriding your natural instinct. You wonder about it now, before it's even happened. I'm going to tell you this, natural instinct in the bed room WILL take over, and all this worrying will be out the window.

I like my hand too, BUT I love nothing more then to have a warm woman on top or under me.

All girls are different. Some like it hard and fast, some like it slow and tender. Nothing wrong with asking, or setting the pace yourself (or matching hers).

They care about being bored in bed if you suck (or, if they have been around). Get experience and sucking will disappear. The big thing is to turn her on so much, and make her happy. That usually keeps them coming back.

 

[Obsidian]

Please ban J Fuchs and Kevin G

 

[knglerxt]

I kind of understand where you're coming from. Going a long time without sex and knowing most other people are getting some will make you very bitter. There's no questioning that. Anybody that says any differently has obviously never been in that situation. Probably 95% of guys haven't been, so the vast majority of people, especially people on this site, have no idea what it's like. It's torture 24/7.

This is the wrong forum to post something like this, though. All most people here are going to do is flame you and make you feel worse than you already do. There's actually a thread on the front page about this very thing.

 

[Obsidian]

seriously, guys, don't respond to this clown. he's just trying to f*ck up our forum.

 

[J. Fuchs]

Please ban J Fuchs and Kevin G

What? You aren't a mindreader so how can you tell I am saying this for some sort of malicious reason?

Do you know why you are wondering about sex? Because it's the logic and education factor overriding your natural instinct. You wonder about it now, before it's even happened. I'm going to tell you this, natural instinct in the bed room WILL take over, and all this worrying will be out the window.

So you are saying every man suddenly changes when he is having sex? How do you know?

I like my hand too, BUT I love nothing more then to have a warm woman on top or under me.

So this means the difference consists of having a "warm woman" under or over you. Why then would a man have sex with a woman in doggystyle position, and have virtually no flesh-to-flesh contact apart from the penis in vagina? I have seen porn videos made by normal people that have had this kind of sex happening.

Come to think of it I usually do fantasize about feeling a "warm woman"'s body esp. the thighs and imagine my pillow is that "warm woman". The problem is I have never fantasized about pounding the "warm woman" i.e. having to thrust my hips back and forth for long periods.

All girls are different. Some like it hard and fast, some like it slow and tender. Nothing wrong with asking, or setting the pace yourself (or matching hers).

Does this mean some do not require you to perform in bed? Because "slow and tender" seems less pressure and work to me. "Hard and fast" would be a lot of pressure.

They care about being bored in bed if you suck (or, if they have been around). Get experience and sucking will disappear. The big thing is to turn her on so much, and make her happy. That usually keeps them coming back.

What is the definition of sucking? Would most girls get bored if you do not "pound" them? What if the entire duration of sex is devoid of any sort of aggression? Would she be bored then?

 

[Docs]

So you are saying every man suddenly changes when he is having sex? How do you know?
I've had sex. And yes, every man has natural instinct. Natural instinct overrides logic when faced with a natural obstacle. (ie: logic helps for err...logical situations. Nature is the fight/flight/do/not do)

So this means the difference consists of having a "warm woman" under or over you. Why then would a man have sex with a woman in doggystyle position, and have virtually no flesh-to-flesh contact apart from the penis in vagina? I have seen porn videos made by normal people that have had this kind of sex happening.
Every man is different. I railed her hard too. It's not the actual act of sex that makes me happy, it's the having her enjoying it, because she should be returning the favour (and for me, that's touch)

Come to think of it I usually do fantasize about feeling a "warm woman"'s body esp. the thighs and imagine my pillow is that "warm woman". The problem is I have never fantasized about pounding the "warm woman" i.e. having to thrust my hips back and forth for long periods.



Does this mean some do not require you to perform in bed? Because "slow and tender" seems less pressure and work to me. "Hard and fast" would be a lot of pressure.

Some just want you there. Some want c0ck, some want fast c0ck. She'll let you know.


What is the definition of sucking? Would most girls get bored if you do not "pound" them? What if the entire duration of sex is devoid of any sort of aggression? Would she be bored then?
Every girl is different. Get some experience and you'll answer your own question.

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[J. Fuchs]

I kind of understand where you're coming from. Going a long time without sex and knowing most other people are getting some will make you very bitter. There's no questioning that. Anybody that says any differently has obviously never been in that situation. Probably 95% of guys haven't been, so the vast majority of people, especially people on this site, have no idea what it's like. It's torture 24/7.

This is the wrong forum to post something like this, though. All most people here are going to do is flame you and make you feel worse than you already do. There's actually a thread on the front page about this very thing.

I don't even know whether it's bitterness just almost disbelief that people are "getting some". But I relate to when you said "torture 24/7" as it literally is 24/7 with the confusion, anger and hate. I have college assignment im working on right now which im behind on and it's so inefficient because my mind just keeps going back to this issue over and over again and this time I'm not sure if I can make the assignment in time. FFS I can't get anything done all I can think about is women, women's bodies, sex, other people having sex, other people easily having sex, other people having casual sex and one-night-stands, other people having no problems or effort obtaining sex, sex being normal/natural for other people etc. But it is only the idea I'm in love with I don't think the actual thing would be that great. From when I wake up to when I sleep it is all I think about and dominates my thoughts. It is an obsession and will not stop.

 

[J. Fuchs]

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So it doesn't matter? Man that takes some pressure off my head. Thank you.

 

[J. Fuchs]

Every girl is different. Get some experience and you'll answer your own question.

Just to clarify, when you say every girl is different, how many girls would not be bored if the sex is entirely devoid of aggression? Because I read this http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/205576820.html and she expressed disgust at the lack of aggression from her man. How universal is this?

 

[Labourer]

christ! your 19 and your wondering whether you want it or not? I'm 28 and wondering WHEN i am going to get it ROFL!!!!

The good thing is I have had sex before, but that was 3 years ago!!! my balls are like tennis balls lol, trust me, when you get up close to a woman and feel that tender smooth skin and nice smell or gonna cream ya pants bro! you want it, trust me, you do lol

 

[L777]

Assuming you're a virgin...you can't say this kinda stuff about sex until you've had it.

Believe me its worth waiting for...the act of sex is GREAT and you feel like a f.uckin pimp afterwards...it gives you such a confidence (and ego?) boost.

You have some inner game (I hate that phrase) issues...otherwise, you'd be well up for and well on your way to getting it, sex that is. I suggest you read up on inner game, core beliefs etc.

Seriously man, go and get laid, then think about making posts like this.

 

[CrunchyNut]

First, its so much better than your hand! Second, go out and do it. If you dont enjoy it, then come back here and say so. Chances are you will enjoy it. There is no point wondering, though, until you have found out. Read the DJ bible, get a girl, then tell us how it went.