"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I Am BROKEN..Please HELP ME
- Thread starter The Message Boy
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
The Message Boy
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I'm going through the DJ Bible again, KillaPethog's shorter version. In Chapter Four of "What Attracts Females" it says:
"Things that women look for by Mystery Method
Looks and height. Women are attracted to taller and better-looking men. However, you don’t necessarily have to have these attributes to succeed with women. There are playaz out there who aren’t very tall or attractive but they can still hang. Looks and height are important but they are not deal breakers."
Okay, but with THIS girl it was. Warrior, as I start this new journal, can you or someone please explain to me, do looks really matter or not? In other words, if I'm really just a 5 at average and 6 at best in looks, relatively short (5'9 or 5'10) is that a deal breaker?
It was with this girl.
1.Start a self improvement journal on here. Create a new thread for it.The Message Boy said:
2. Do a self assessment. Honestly I really don't care about posting a pic, you know you look. You can if you want to. Post it in your journal. You can't change your face anyway. If you have acne, you already know you should be getting that under control. If your teeth are stained and yellow you already know what you should do about it. If you have a crappy or stupid hair cut you know what to do. The only pics that are gonna do you any good is if you post pics of what you wear when you go out to meet women so you can get feedback on your fashion sense, or what kind of pics you post on your online dating sites and you want feedback on them.
3. Start working out if you don't already. If your not in a gym, find a gymless workout program online that you can do until you join one. Exercise makes you feel better about yourself.
4. Start pinpointing the weak point in your interactions (by posting the truth in your journal). Listen to the advice people are giving you.
5. Make a list of all of your positive qualities. You have to know what is good about you before you can sell it. Like you said..you don't believe in your product..so now is the time to go back to the basics and rediscover what is so good about you. What do you bring to the table? No matter how small. You have to find the positives and focus on those while fixing your negatives. Post your list in your journal.
6. Learn to cut off negative thoughts...when you get one. Push it aside, replace it with something positive about you from your list. That way you don't get stuck on the negative. We all have negative points and positive points but if you only see one and not the others then you're not gonna be in balance.
7. What are you goals in life? How are you doing on those? Post about it in your journal.
8. List your interest and hobbies. What have you done on them? Or are women your interests and hobbies. You already know that's not the way forward. Put that in your journal.
It's time to build a whole life.
So start that journal...make that list, go do fifty push ups. Right now. Get it done. move! If I don't see it, I'm writing you off as a troll or someone who just wants to whine about their problems and not take action. It's easy to whine and complain, its hard to actually do something and change. Let's see what you're made of.
The Message Boy
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Everything else on that list, I already have.
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2. You're not short. 5'10? Sheesh... I'm 5'7 and I've f*cked a lot of women.
3. You talked to her for 6 months. Way too long. I get the phone number under 3-4 emails. I call her up and invite her to my place. I don't deal with that dating bullsh*t.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You fell in love with a girl you met online and when you met face to face it didn't work.
No big surprise there.
Don't be too harsh on yourself.
Wise up and don't let your emotions rule you like that.
Why should you give a fvck what some random chick thinks about you and your car?
In the grand scheme she means absolutely nothing to you or your life.
You've been around here long enough to know better.
There are plenty of women out there that think you are attractive and great.
Quit wasting your time with this negative BS. Go find them.
It really is THAT simple.
P.S. Next time a chick gets mean and starts insulting you give her a friendly poke in the belly and say "Whatever muffin top." and leave.
Solomon
Master Don Juan
I really wanna see a picture of you holding a sign saying "I am message boy" seriosuly.....
I can't believe people take this guy seriously. First he posts about how to make money in a failing real estate market, than he talks about killing women, now he's going EMO over one chick over the internet. This guy is a loony, troll or not.Solomon said:
Solomon
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Synergy I'm gald I'm not the only onesynergy1 said:
This guy had a thread a couple weeks ago bragging about fuccing other guys women then not to long ago about spinning plates, how do you go from that to being "broken" in a hotle room with "hookers"?
uuggh These frauds in the community make me sick. the sad part is there is some guy out there who really needs help this guy just wants attention
Desert Fox
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Dude are you serious? 400? Recheck that. Might be closer to ONE.
Sounds like you have oneitis since you care so damn much about this girl's reaction.
I've had oneitis before, maybe twice, it sucked. But once I focused on 2 or more girls it did not affect me 1/100th as much as if I was just focused on one girl.
Even recently I was just focused on 2 girls and got rejected by one, but it didn't phase me as bad as I thought. I was hurt yea, for a few hours, then I got tired, slept, woke up, put sh1t in perspective like a man and found other girls I was interested in after mentally erasing that first girl and nexting her. I also noted she had her chance and she'd have to start at the back of the line to earn my respect and attention if she were to pursue anything.
So yeah man, I doubt you had 400 girls. Messaging people on facebook doesn't count as an approach unless you strike up convos with them. Anyone can mass spam 400 girls.
Look dude, this sounds like an issue that goes much much deeper than women. You should focus on yourself more. You say you could count on yourself, but look at how this little girl's rude comments have shaken you to the core. You are panicking on here man, it is sad and painful to watch. You should make yourself a fvcking cement pillar threaded with titanium alloy covered with bullet proof kevlar and a nuke radiation fallout shield. That's who you have to be on the INSIDE. Then when some girls shouts dumb things at you, it will bounce off. You must be your own pillar of strength in this world. Your parents can help, your friends (you mentioned you have none) can help, but when the sh1t hits the FAN it is up to YOU.
Step it up. Right now you're living a pitiful life, feeling sorry for yourself. We can all do great thigns if only we just TRIED.
Stop holding yourself back. Go all out. When you think something is "good enough" and you're about to stop, SLAP YOURSELF and I mean PHYSICALLY SLAP YOURSELF and keep going for 10 more minutes. Working out and you're tired? Add 10 more minutes, you're stopping early because you've conditioned yourself to be a PVSSY your whole life, backing down at the first sign of resistance. Tired of studying? SHUT THE FVCK UP AND HIT THE BOOKS FOR 10 MORE MINUTES.
I know this works because I am the same way. My parents used to tell me I was lazy and without them, I would fail. They were right. It was like I was walking up the stairs, but leaning backwards the whole way up. The only thing keeping me from falling was my parents helping me with advice and support (this was waay back in grade school btw). Anyways, I realized that if I didn't want to fall to my death (figuratively) I'd have to lean forward in EVERYTHING I did. In ALL aspects of my life. To be honest, there are some aspects in my life where I lean back or am static, but I've changed a lot and continue to change.
You need to dig deep man. Every person has trying times, some big some small, but to that person, there is no doubt that their difficulty is a mountain despite seeming like a molehill to others. This is your time to prove everyone wrong and dig deep. No one can do this for you, pick yourself up and become better. Doesn't matter better at what, just become better than the person you are this moment. Our goal in life should simply be to be better than the men we were yesterday. Then nothing can stop you. GOOD LUCK! :rockon:
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Rollo Tomassi
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Solomon
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check the IP's
peace
Exactly, Todd. And who would get that upset over a girl from online anyway? And who would post about this while he is in a hotel room with a prostitute in the bathroom ... come on, I am surprised he doesn't claim to be posting from the ledge outside the window on the tenth floor, with the crew from the fire department blowing up the mattress beneath him.Todd Preston said:
Riiight.The Message Boy said:
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Tazman said:
We'll know for sure. If he follows any of the advice given then he's worth spending time on. If not, you can ignore him. That's what I'll be doing anyway. I just gave him the same advice I would give anyone...I noticed he hasn't been back and if he comes back whining and complaining he's not worth wasting another word on. That's my last word on him until I see results. Done. No more time to give.
amoka said:
He's either a troll or one whacked out dude who's totally confused about everything and anything.
He's been a pompous, condescending dork to others here while defending how great women are on other threads. Then he comes whining for help when everything he thought he believed about women and himself was wrong.
He needs more help than anyone here can give him.
Cheers!
sodbuster
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You are a troll. If you are not a troll then you are an idiot. If you are not an idiot, then you are a douchebag. You been talking a whole lot of "know it all" cr@p on here, and now you come out with this pvssy stuff.The Message Boy said:
I offered you help once, you continued to act like a smartalec.
Two words: P!ss off.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.