"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Confident1

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Hey everybody,
This is my first post, in case you are on the slow side and didn't look over to the side.

I am pretty naturally ****y and I never have any problem talking to the attractive girl, but I seem to have problem that I have not read about yet, actually its two pronged, if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated.

Firstly, girls always seem to find me attractive. Last night I overheard a girl, that I cannot seem to get out of my head, say she thought I was really cute. I just sat back and smiled. I didn't want to make it seem like I was listening in. She always runs up and hugs and kisses me lahdi dahdy dah. Here is my problem, I get the girls to think I am cute and I seem to be absolutely clueless. I don't know how to bring it any further for some reason. I just try the whole "hell yea I'm cute, its hard to keep my hands off myself" or "I know, it really is a shame I am too good for you" thing. They always laugh and giggle, but nothing happens. What do I do? I try to hang out with them, but I do not want to appear clingy.

Secondly, and I think this is a by product of the first thing, I always hang out with hot girls. They always, when I first meet them, flirt or joke around with me or whatever, the problem is as I get to know these girls they see me as more of a friend. How can I get these girls to keep wanting me? Whenever I figure out that they want me, I try to make a clumsy move and they just say "o I thought we were friends...." and I just look like a deer in head lights.

....any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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undesputable

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the easiest way to not fall in the friends category is to establish sexual interest since the beggining. friends talk to each other about their problems, you dont want that, you just want a ***** to ****....you can do that by kino, you can look that up in the bible/articles section.
 

dannowillbookem

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be a btich. i have a girl i call "chunky munky" cause she used to be chubby (i wouldnt go that far with just anyone though lol...shes an old friend/fvk buddy) but u know light insults and all...good use of the "cant keep my hands off myself" line etc...the only thing i didnt see u mention was kino. its kinda a game when u get used to it, sliding by a girl and touching her hand in a way that COULD have been accidental but it felt real...stuff to keep them wondering. also mention ur future love life with the girl i.e. "i hope you wont still dress like that when we're going steady" and all. overall ur blessed with something i had to fight for, confidence, and u sound like a pretty good looking guy. keep it up and keep us posted.
 

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"i hope you wont still dress like that when we're going steady"
You don't wanna look too clingy- I'd suggest changing it to "I hope you won't still dress that way when you finally land me!"

Use kino. Wink at them, but make sure you have a good, sexy wink first. Smile with eye contact across the room, then start talking to somebody. She'll be like "WTF? Am I not as important?"

Definitely look up kino in the bible.
 

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Well first you have to score and get a rep going that you just want to sleep with chicks without the relationship and then once word gets around all the girls that just want sex will start trying to seduce you and will try to get in your pants or w/e.
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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Originally posted by 08aisaac
Well first you have to score and get a rep going that you just want to sleep with chicks without the relationship and then once word gets around all the girls that just want sex will start trying to seduce you and will try to get in your pants or w/e.
and all the girls that aren't looking for just sex will avoid him. And there are more girl in that category by far
 

08aisaac

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So it's easier and beter to have sex with a chick that wants sex then a girl that doesn't. Plus there are a ton of hot chicks that want sex. If a rep there are a ton of other ways. None of which that you mentioned.
 

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Thanks everybody, however part of my problem is also that I get these girls hitting on me and rubbing up close and **** and I just don't know how to get it to the physical level, last night I was at a friends house. There was this girl that I have a thing for and I am pretty sure she has for me (I suck at reading signals, until it is too late of course). She was trying to teach me how to marengay (or something like that) and do the lam bada (sp???) and staying next to me all for the beginning of the night. I just wasn't sure what to do...I knew she was hitting on me, but I am a straightforward guy, but somehow saying, lets go into another room just doesn't seem right, am I wrong?

Also another question, toward the end of the night this girl seemed to get kind of distant and I don't know why, was it b/c I was not returning any of her advaneces or what? She even started to kind of hit on another guy. I didn't really pay that much attention just hung out and had fun anyway. Then 1:30am rolls around and I decide to leave. Well she puts her number in my phone and says that I better call her today to go see Wedding Crashers (refering to an earlier convo) and she kept asking me if I really had to leave. I just told her "you call me, I always forget to call people." But apparently I forgot to give her my number and for whatever reason I decided not to at that moment. What the hell was she thinking there? Was that just a power play that I never really noticed or what?

Thanks again for everything

[EDIT: Maybe a more straight forward example of my inability to take anything further is: a few nights ago I was at a party, this girl I used to have a thing with came up to me (I was sitting on a porch swing) looks me dead in the eye and goes "your so hot" and sat on my lap. I just said "yea, well no sh*t" I didn't know what to do after that...I know these sounds likes problems that some people would kill to have, but damn it! It's pissing me off!]
 

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Man, Kino is obviously your problem; specifically kissing. When that girl jumped on your lap, you could've added "Yeah, no ****, so what're you waiting for?" and then leaned in a bit to kiss her. The problem is that you're not willing to take that risk and kiss her. And really, it's not a risk at all! Really man, you've got it going for you, you just have to take your balls out of your purse and go for it. ;)
 

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Man, I was in the exact same boat as you. It sucks, breaking the ice for the kiss used to be the biggest *****. It's like you get all the girls to like you, and a good rep, but you aren't getting any. Just say something like, "can I ask you something" , then just grab your balls and do it. Once you do, you will be so much more relaxed, and I'm sure you can take it from there. So much tension is released after. JUST DO IT MAN :woo:
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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Kino.
Will work wonders.
Just don't do it to girls you want to be your friends. :( I learnt this the hard way.
 
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