"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I almost have no more use for this DJing ****.

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well.. I've almost had it.

I've tried my best with this stuff and I've been very successfull. The problem is this site isn't helping me find the Right girl.

There isn't much in the bible about how to judge a womans character or how to find a decent girl. I think that most guys on here know what they want and have always known it. I'm sure there are many who (after trying this DJing stuff) are just sifting through useless woman after useless woman. It is getting to the point where I just don't have time for this crap anymore. I have other things to do in my life to then to fish in a polluted lake. I've meet a lot of women in the last year, but I've quickly come to the conclusion that they are not even worthy of my DJing skills.

fcuk it.. I'm not setting up dates anymore and I'm not wasting my time.

Why have I come to this conclusion?

well.. while fcuking a girl doggy style the other night, I started to think that women are only good for one thing! I'm sure some of you have already come to that conclusion a long time ago. I know a lot of my friends who have too. Sadly or not, I can tell you that I'm very close to joining them. Why the **** should I give two ****s about a girl that is in the end just useless trash? That stupid HB9 only wants to be ****ed anyway!

You can have the best game out there, but in the end it is just very hollow and meaningless if you don't find what you want.

Thanks to this site I can get them in my bed, but I always know that it isn't going to last because those women are not exactly what I'm looking for.

Maybe you think that I just haven't searched through enough women.. but look at it this way.

Statistically if 99.9% of all women are uselss to me then there are about 2000 women in my city of 2 mil. I guess that means I will have to go through about 2000 women before I find the right one. Sorry, but that is just too much ****ing and I don't have that much time. I would have to **** every day for 6 years!

I'm starting to think that this whole DJ **** is getting me no place. Sure I can get a girl this way, but it is never what I want because in the end I don't like them. My standards are very high for these americanize fcuk dolls. And there is no fcuking way I'm going to lower my expectations.

I suspect that it will take me a very long time to find a good woman in this country. Most are fcuked up by opra or stupid magazines.

The more I think about it the more I realize that I would rather be alone for the rest of my life then to get attached to a useless woman.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So you're still on this forum because....?



Originally posted by 00Kevin
The problem is this site isn't helping me find the Right girl.
Sorry, but we aren't match.com - perhaps you'll have better luck over there.
 

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Originally posted by diablo
So you're still on this forum because....?




Sorry, but we aren't match.com - perhaps you'll have better luck over there.
yeah you're right, I shouldn't expect that from this site :)

I'm just pissed
 

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That's sad. I mean I whole heartedly feel for 'ya and agree that there is no use to being attached to someone that isn't worth your time (trust me, I know). But through being a DJ I never worry nor will I ever be 'alone.' I may not be with "THE ONE" or Ms. Right, but I'll be d@mned if I wouldn't be able to use my skill to find Ms. Right Now if need be.

Get this, I just took a statistical survey to find the percentage of women in Minnesota that fit my specific criteria. Let's just say that it wasn't good news (.000079 odd percent). In a nutshell it's about 1 in almost 600,000. What makes it even worse is that Minnesota (Minneapolis) has less than 500,000 women!!! Hmmmm, can you say a guy is in the wrong place at the wrong time???!!! :p

All I can say is that I'm probably not going to fine 'the one' unless I move out of the country, so be it. But until then I'm going to enjoy each moment as it comes and each woman I come across that is good enough for that moment. I just think of it as cheap amusement. ;)
 

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being alone isn't what worries me.. but it does disturb me and it forces me to evaluate human nature.

I think every guy who is a little older than 25 (wrong or not )wants to find a woman that is worthy of his affection and protection. It is just a basic part of human nature.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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heh, think about this... the DJ bible condemns oneitis... so if that one girl out of 600,000 happens to look at you the wrong way, or forgets to return your call, you are supposed to next her?

Sheer Lunacy!

I say, if you find that one special girl, you better exhaust all possible avenues of making it work before coming to the conclusion that you have to move on.

There are some good ideas on this forum, but you must think for yourself and not take the DJ bible or all the advice on this forum so literally.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
being alone isn't what worries me.. but it does disturb me and it forces me to evaluate human nature.

I think every guy who is a little older than 25 (wrong or not )wants to find a woman that is worthy of his affection and protection. It is just a basic part of human nature.
I can go along with that but understand that no matter what you eventually decide upon about human nature, realize that it is neither good nor bad, it just is. You have the power to label it and the choice is yours on how you react to it.

Yes, it's nice having a partner by your side; one that complements who you are as a person. It just doesn't help if you become cynical about the state of things. It is what it is however it has no bearing what so ever in defining who you are. Being a DJ does not make women become "Ms. Right," being a DJ allows you to understand the 'system' and helps you not go mad when situation such as this arise.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Get this, I just took a statistical survey to find the percentage of women in Minnesota that fit my specific criteria. Let's just say that it wasn't good news (.000079 odd percent). In a nutshell it's about 1 in almost 600,000. What makes it even worse is that Minnesota (Minneapolis) has less than 500,000 women!!! Hmmmm, can you say a guy is in the wrong place at the wrong time???!!! :p
Out of curiosity... What statistical survey are you talking about? :confused: Finding the right woman is mostly about her personality, how can a statistic survey find the percentage of the personalities you're seeking?
 

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yea..i hit that point midway through last summer and most of this past summer was just like you stated.

just sifting through the bullsh*t and realizing women are actually not that hard to get with..but finding the right one...NOW thats the challenge...so what happens?? this stuff starts to get boring..

but...i'd rather have this stuff and know what I know about women and their tendancies rather than being an all out AFC and getting hurt or used everytime...

the dilemma is whether or not you'd be happy in an AFC relationship today...or...being a DJ now and struggling to find the woman who meets your standards because there are so few out there...

personally...i'd take the latter..and i'm sure you would too...
 

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You need help judging a woman's character? Why? It's written everywhere on her.

The next time you're thinking about approaching a girl, look closely at her hair, her clothes, her posture, and most importantly at her face. You can find out what you need to know about her from these things.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Yea I am sort of in the same position as you man. Its easy to get girls, but finding the right one is the hard part. I dont want someone whos perfect in everyway but one whos perfect for me. I guess u just gotta keep looking but you gotta watch out that no matter how experienced you are with ur DJ skills when u find this one that does suite u, just be careful to keep ur emotion under control and that u dont go all desperate over her or try to rush things with her. I am just speaking from past experience thats all.
 

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The next time you're thinking about approaching a girl, look closely at her hair, her clothes, her posture, and most importantly at her face. You can find out what you need to know about her from these things
I kinda disagree with some of things. Yea you can tell if a chick is a skank or not by the clothes n the amount of make up she wears, the way she talks or watever. But there are the ones that look all innocent on the outside but are major sluts, the innocent look is just a mask used to attract more guys. I guess you just cant rush into things specially if you are wanting a LTR with a girl. Just try to actually get to knw her and look past her looks n see what shes actually made of.
 

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Hi Kevin,

I think I understand what you're saying. (And I'm quite sure you're gonna snap out of it by this weekend!)

Might I suggest you write down a list of things that you would like your ideal girl to be? If you don't know what you want, you're never going to find it. Sometimes people talk about their ideal partner but have no idea what it is. They don't take the time to reflect and get to know themselves so that they know what will work for them or not. For instance, what part of you is the most desireable to a woman of LTR value? What are the good parts of your personality? What are the bad? What can you change about yourself for the better? What things (good or bad) will never change? Perhaps you can think about what you have to offer a woman and then think about what type of woman would be attracted to your qualities. Then you can think about those qualities that you want in a woman. Sosuave can't help you with that. Every woman has a vagina, so what. But what are those SPECIAL things that you need from YOUR woman?

You seem like a very level headed guy and I think that you will have no problem finding the right girl. Here's a hint: it will be when you least expect it and probably the least girl you expected. I think it took a lot of guts and heavy balls to come here and express how you feel. That's awesome, Kevin and it tells me that when you find YOUR girl, you'll probably have what it takes to keep her, all on your own, minus Sosuave.
Good Luck!
SB :)
 

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Originally posted by Porky
You need help judging a woman's character? Why? It's written everywhere on her.

The next time you're thinking about approaching a girl, look closely at her hair, her clothes, her posture, and most importantly at her face. You can find out what you need to know about her from these things.
oh sh*t, and here all the time I thought it was her perfume
 

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Originally posted by m4a1
Out of curiosity... What statistical survey are you talking about? :confused: Finding the right woman is mostly about her personality, how can a statistic survey find the percentage of the personalities you're seeking?
I'll find the site and post it. They've gathered tons of statistical information about personal general personal information. You basically put in the qualities that you are looking for and it shows you the demographic data for your particular geographic area.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by Porky
You need help judging a woman's character? Why? It's written everywhere on her.

The next time you're thinking about approaching a girl, look closely at her hair, her clothes, her posture, and most importantly at her face. You can find out what you need to know about her from these things.
Where I live the there are tons (literally) of women that look like the Michelen Man. It's hard to look through that first layer (it's pretty d@mn thick). :p Many of the HBs here just have the looks (nordic) and I'm so bored with that look now.
 

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Originally posted by seabreeze
...Might I suggest you write down a list of things that you would like your ideal girl to be? If you don't know what you want, you're never going to find it. Sometimes people talk about their ideal partner but have no idea what it is. They don't take the time to reflect and get to know themselves so that they know what will work for them or not. For instance, what part of you is the most desireable to a woman of LTR value? What are the good parts of your personality? What are the bad? What can you change about yourself for the better? What things (good or bad) will never change? Perhaps you can think about what you have to offer a woman and then think about what type of woman would be attracted to your qualities. Then you can think about those qualities that you want in a woman. Sosuave can't help you with that. Every woman has a vagina, so what. But what are those SPECIAL things that you need from YOUR woman?...
This is good stuff. I did all of this a few years ago and it has made a difference. Haven't found the 'right' woman but I've avoided mass amounts of the 'wrong' type of women.
 

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That's when you start to MAKE women into what you want. Where's Player Supreme?? :) Hit up Hollywood man, if you're that pro I'd get an actress- after all, they leave for weeks at a time doing their movies so you can get outside cl*t when u need it and honestly, how can u get bored with all that money? ;)
 

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Originally posted by Deadly_Assassin
I kinda disagree with some of things. Yea you can tell if a chick is a skank or not by the clothes n the amount of make up she wears, the way she talks or watever. But there are the ones that look all innocent on the outside but are major sluts, the innocent look is just a mask used to attract more guys. I guess you just cant rush into things specially if you are wanting a LTR with a girl. Just try to actually get to knw her and look past her looks n see what shes actually made of.
That wasn't what I meant.

if you're in a club and a girl is looking around like she's bored/disdainful, than most of the time she's going to be haughty and conceited. If her eyes are wide and she looks interested in everything around her - then she's probably going to be friendly and interesting.

it's subtle, but you just need to know what to look for.
 

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Originally posted by Porky
That wasn't what I meant.

if you're in a club and a girl is looking around like she's bored/disdainful, than most of the time she's going to be haughty and conceited. If her eyes are wide and she looks interested in everything around her - then she's probably going to be friendly and interesting.

it's subtle, but you just need to know what to look for.
Classic qualifying, if a woman doesn't even look approachable is it even worth the effort?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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