"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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jvick

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say you work with a girl, she LJBF's you, then starts dating someone. normally you could just peace out, but since you work with her you cant really avoid her. anyway-- say you always are doing fun/unique stuff, ie. hiking, car racing, going on overnight motorcycle trips etc. basically youre into something that most girls never do, yet would have a great(and very memorable) time if she did for once. But, since she ljbfed you, you dont really chat much except the normal work stuff. However, one day comes along and she asks what you did on the weekend, so you tell her about your amazing time doing whatever. heres the kicker, she responds with something like, "oh that sounds awesome, next time you do that let me know" What is your response?

ive had similiar situations come up and never had a 'great' answer. on the one hand i feel that bringing a girl on an action/adventure date, after the LJBF card has been played is a weak, AFC move. you want more than friends, she knows you want more than friends, and it gives her all the control, regardless of the actual funness of the date. you could always call her out on the LJBF, saying something about how you only show girls youre dating such a fun time. it would somewhat give you back the power, but also show her youre still bitter.

BUT... i also think you may beable to rock it if you take her out, forgetting about her bf and the friend card. you show her a great time, use some kino and typical c/f. then cut it short, drop her off and then go somewhat cold with her, without setting up another out-of-work rendezvous. let her see how she can be happy with you, but you are basically fine on your own and dont need her,or really care one way or another if she comes along again.

im interested in your thoughts and experiences with situations like this.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I also agree to take her out once, she might be having trouble with her bf and see's you as an escape from that. Just give it a shot and see how it goes.
 

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jvick said:
you want more than friends, she knows you want more than friends
not necessarily

also, you have one-itis
 

aliasguy

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F*CK HER.

Let her hear about how much fun other women are having. with you.

And she can be sorry. Tough sh*it for her.

I know u want to get the original girl. I understand, but LET IT GO. There are too many other girls. Really.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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