hung up on Vanessa, HELP!

[elton]

i feel like im gonna be flamed hardcore for this but here goes..

been talking to this girl from myspace for a while and things seemed to be going fine. hung out with her like about 4 times. im 18 and shes 16, friends think im stupid for going for a young girl but whatever.

on aim we would talk a lot and she would seem cool as hell, but when i met her in person she wouldnt make any eye contact whatsoever. but from what i hear she deosnt with anyone so i figured she was just shy? i have no idea.

the 2nd time we hung out i thought it would be a great idea to go ice skating since it was nearly over 100 degrees outside and it would help me with kino. everything seemed to work out fine but i think i was way to touchy feely.

so after going iceskating, going to the county fair, starbucks, chilling in my car and stuff i thought things were going along fine besides the fact she never calls/texts unless i do first. after realizing that i pretty must figured she dindt like me but i had to find out for sure. heres my convo with her on aim. im not really thinking right now so i kinda need someone to interpret for me. tell me where i screwed up and crap.

Nessa: idk
Nessa: everytime i do that **** happens
ch0N9: waht shyt
ch0N9: tad shyt
Nessa: no
Nessa: idc about tad hes a faggot
Nessa: hes going to this party tomorrow and im going to fcking kill him if he talks to me
ch0N9: this is waht i would do
ch0N9: get a plastic water gun
ch0N9: paint it black
Nessa: ur gay
ch0N9: hold that **** to his nuts
Nessa: lol
Nessa: seriously
Nessa: idk man
ch0N9: am i the killer here?
Nessa: this party might be weird
Nessa: this guy keeps saying sht about banging him there
ch0N9: banging tad?
ch0N9: lol
Nessa: NO
Nessa: someone else
ch0N9: u said
ch0N9: this guy is gonna bang another dude
Nessa: ok fvck what i asid
ch0N9: lol
ch0N9: u didnt mean u
ch0N9: did u
Nessa: omg what
Nessa: i SAID SOME GUY
Nessa: KEEPS ASKING ME
Nessa: IF IM GOING TO BANG AT THEPARTY
Nessa: AND THIS OTHE GUY
Nessa: THEY ARE BOTH FAGS
ch0N9: thats pretty fcked up
ch0N9: of course ure gonna go anyway
Nessa: haha imnot afraid of being raped because they wont do sht
ch0N9: right...
ch0N9: u act all bossy online
Nessa: so
Nessa: they wont do sht
ch0N9: so whats the plan
ch0N9: what are u doing
Nessa: idkkkkkkkkkkkk
Nessa: im going to her house
Nessa: then we are going to hawthorne mall
Nessa: and her boyfriend and this tim guy
Nessa: is going to be there
ch0N9: i really need to talk to u about somthing later
ch0N9: just keep that in mind
Nessa: tell me now?
Nessa: i dont see why you cant say it right now
Nessa: if i wont be on later
ch0N9: cause u seem busy
Nessa: ok im not
Nessa: lol
Nessa: tell me now
ch0N9: ok hold on
ch0N9: let me think
ch0N9: just listen
ch0N9: dont respond untill i say im done
ch0N9: k?
Nessa: okokk
ch0N9: well to start out u know i like you
ch0N9: im almost positive you do
ch0N9: and it just kinda pisses me off that you cant make up ure mind on 1 guy
ch0N9: and i dont feel like waiting around
ch0N9: like
ch0N9: i duno
ch0N9: u put like
ch0N9: i know u like aaron more then me
ch0N9: and that danny ki
ch0N9: d
ch0N9: it just bugs me alot
ch0N9: i dont feel like waiting around
ch0N9: so i'd like an anwser
ch0N9: or some kind of sign
ch0N9: anything
ch0N9: u dont have to say anything
ch0N9: thast just wahts on my mind
ch0N9: and i thought you should know
Nessa: ch0N9: dont respond untill i say im done
ch0N9: i know
ch0N9: hold on
ch0N9: im just saying u dont have to say anything about it if u dont want to
ch0N9: ****
ch0N9: i mean i dont care
ch0N9: what ure decision is
ch0N9: its fine by me
ch0N9: i cant do anythign about it
ch0N9: i just dont liek fcking around anymore
ch0N9: i guess im impatient
ch0N9: i might just be stupid
ch0N9: ok im done
Nessa: ok first of all
Nessa: i didnt think you liked me
Nessa: so stfu about that
Nessa: second of all
Nessa: i never said i liked aaron
Nessa: he pissed me off last night and when people piss me off i dont forget about it
Nessa: third of all idk what to think about danny and ****
Nessa: fourth of all
Nessa: i can make my mind up about a guy i like
ch0N9: ok
ch0N9: well i feel real stupid
ch0N9: for actually telling u
Nessa: lol
ch0N9: but yeah i like you
ch0N9: i guess it wasnt taht obvious
Nessa: apparently not
Nessa: idk why you like me either afterall
ch0N9: i dont think about it when i like someone
ch0N9: i just know i do
Nessa: lol weird
ch0N9: i dont like fcking myself over
ch0N9: being hung up on a specific girl
ch0N9: alright i dont want to talk about this anymore
Nessa: hi
Nessa: im nessa
Nessa: how are you today
ch0N9: kinda confused
Nessa: lol
ch0N9: u
Nessa: same same

now she likes this kid named danny i think. was i being too much of a ***** in the im? she left me an im when i forgot ot put my away up and when i came back my comp was messed up so i coudlnt read what she said but her away message said "elton<---imsorry=[" im almost positive she left me a message saying shes gonna be with this danny kid instead of me.

what shoudl i do? should i just message her say nice meeting u and completely stop talking to her or would that be a weak thing to do? should i keep talking to her like i dont give a sht?

 

[elton]

bump

 

[pooparu]

ch0N9: well to start out u know i like you
ch0N9: im almost positive you do
ch0N9: and it just kinda pisses me off that you cant make up ure mind on 1 guy
ch0N9: and i dont feel like waiting around
ch0N9: like
ch0N9: i duno
ch0N9: u put like
ch0N9: i know u like aaron more then me
ch0N9: and that danny ki
ch0N9: d
ch0N9: it just bugs me alot
ch0N9: i dont feel like waiting around
ch0N9: so i'd like an anwser
ch0N9: or some kind of sign
ch0N9: anything
ch0N9: u dont have to say anything
ch0N9: thast just wahts on my mind
ch0N9: and i thought you should know
Nessa: ch0N9: dont respond untill i say im done
ch0N9: i know
ch0N9: hold on
ch0N9: im just saying u dont have to say anything about it if u dont want to
ch0N9: ****
ch0N9: i mean i dont care
ch0N9: what ure decision is
ch0N9: its fine by me
ch0N9: i cant do anythign about it
ch0N9: i just dont liek fcking around anymore
ch0N9: i guess im impatient
ch0N9: i might just be stupid

Lol, good job. Why would you dump all those feelings on her (which is in general a bad idea), but on top of that, while she's going through some BS woman drama. You started off halfway decent (though I dunno why you were talking about other guys to her unless you were TRYING to be friends), then you kinda ****ed yourself over with that.

At least she didn't technically reject you, but never do this again.

Oh and:
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

Edit: By the way, she's pretty ****ing hot, except her face could use some work, but her body looks pretty decent.

And judging by her myspace, you may be dealing with one of those "sunshine" girls, or whatever they call it here. If you are naturally ****y and funny then I suggest you turn it up on her, if you aren't naturally ****y and funny and don't have the mindset, don't do it, you will miserably fail.

 

[Yuriy777]

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At least she didn't technically reject you, but never do this again.
...

^^^

 

[arlanda]

Of course she knew you like her. Next time cut the "Pleeeeeeeease, choose me" crap. Back in the day I used to do the same thing and guess what?! the success rate was ****ing 0% !!! And please, learn how to spell. We non-americans can't understand you

 

[skip2mylou781]

wow u are a total AFC!!!!

but i used to make the same mistakes u did so listen up:

1)when u hang out with her, u NEED to show her ur interest sexually, if she doesnt like it, then NEXT HER

what U did was jsut hang out and u got LJBF'ed badly

2)SHE DIDNT KNOW U LIKED HER CUZ U DIDNT ACT LIKE A MAN ABOUT IT!!! being her pvssyslave who hangs otu with her isnt called showing intersted....isolating her and FUVKCKING her is called "showing interest"

3)u sound like a total wimp, wheres the confidence and alphaness? u need to work on that or else she wont b attracted to u

4)make sure from now on to CONFUSE her, when u 2 talk pretend u didnt have that convo and somehow mention that u got a date tonite/next nite (even if u dont), get her confused and jealous, cuz u jsut said u like her but now ur on another date, she'll enjoy the emotional rollercoaster and mite come around!

5)she doesnt like eye contact? means shes an unloving ***** period, y even bother/?

 

[sorin]

this woman needs a real man...
she needs protection... she needs to be lead...
she needs someone that takes care of her ... who genuinely cares for her...
that man could be you... if you brush up on your attitude... and convey your personality with more strength...

you have to understand her... but also lead her... and help her forget all the confusion she has in her head... this is also a form of protection...

if you are the most attractive men on earth...
and you are choosing her...
how would you behave towards all her nonsense?

By the way... these things work a hundred times better in person...
because then you can calibrate her responses...

in text you only see very little of what she needs, wants and more of what she things, says she wants...

hope that helped.

 

[Ziggy]

Yeah, you screwed this up cause you weren't being a man, women want men not wussie boys. Go read the dj bible it'll give you a good idea on how a man thinks and acts.

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

Well the "vibe" i got from the girl is "im too good for you,i didn't know you liked me" etc is amost 100% a way to gently reject you.I would call NEXT asap.

 

[elton]

lol thats hilarious, i knew i would get responses like that but im thankful. i hate it when i talk to people and they dont tell me wehre i ****ed up. i knew i was on the right path when i started out telling her whats on my mind. i just softened up a little too much. i realize that. but yeah dude shes ****ing smoking. i can say the same **** to people when there in the situtation im in. tell them they're being pussies and stuff but i realize its extremely hard to follow through logically rather than emotionally.

so anyway im pretty sure she likes this tool of a guy. but im gonna try and act like it doesnt phase me. should i still talk to her? i mean not as much as i used to but still casually talk to her? maybe hang out with her again and change things up.

what should i do when i hang out with her again in the future? something that will really bring out the alpha maleness in me that we all have? haha.


but seriously thanks again for the responses

 

[elton]

+ yeah i did read alot of the djbible articles, almost all the must reads i have read.

i just figured since she was a younger girl this stuff wouldnt apply so much? the c+f seemed more like it was for older, more experienced real good looking women. vanessa is kinda new to this hanging out with dude thing. she recently got good looking.

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

Actually c+f and direct approaching works better on younger girls.I would advise to wait some days before hanging out with her.Important is to escalate next time you meet and if it goes sour NEXT her.

edit: just read "she recently got good looking" , doesn't matter, if she gets male attention then c+f/negs will work,i guess it depends on her self-esteem (the higher it is the better these "tactics" work) but you have to see for yourself how confident she is.

 

[Eccentric]

Lol!