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Hung out with girl a few times, then she mentions her BF. Help.

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Hi guys, i posted this on another forum, but im hoping i can get some better advice here. I know its kinda long, but i would appericiate if you would read it. The imporant stuff is under "Update #2".

ive been chatting it up with a girl in my class for the past few weeks, and it turns out we are members at the same gym. Anyways last night i asked her to come with me to the gym, and she was totally for it and seemed really happy. When we got there i made her do back exercises, during which i was to make really good physical contact with her :p. Afterwards she dragged me onto the ellipticle cardio machine and made me do a 30 minute run with her for payback .

Anyways, im pretty sure she is going to be sore today, so should i call her sometime today and ask her how shes feeling? If she says shes feeling stiff, ill offer her a massage lol. She is also on my AIM, should i still call, or message her online? I can also talk to her in person tomm during class, should i just wait till then?

I know i sound retarded, but i overthink stupid **** like this. Tia

UPDATE #1
wow i dont think this went so well lol..tell me if i messed up

I was chilling in my car waiting for a friend so i decided to give the girl a call. I called, she picked up, we exchanged hi's/whats up. I asked her how she was feeling--her back specifically. She said it was kinda sore but it felt good. Then i told her that i was dead tired in the morning thanks to her cardio, and she cracked a laugh. We were talking for about 20 seconds and I wanted to keep talking. However all of a sudden my retarded friend decided to surprise me and banged on my window really hard after creeping up on me. SO i quickly told the girl, "hey im about to drive, ill talk to ya in a bit". She said "ok" and then we exchanged good byes. I bet shes going to think im rude now, but now i dont feel like calling.

What should i do now. Just wait till tomm and dont call her back?? If she asks why tomm, ill just say i was waitin for my friend and had to take off.

UPDATE #2 -- I need advice please

ok so today i got home from my morning classes and logged onto aim. I couldnt really focus in class all morning because ive been thinkin of this chick--eeeek. Anways, she doesnt send me a message, so i say **** it and log off and go take a nap. After an hour i hop back online and she sends me a message asking if i went to the gym today. I say "hey whats up, nope". I ask her the same question back, and she said "no, lets go after class". At frist i refused--telling her i will be busy. She then called me a "Pu55y", and litterally begged me to come, so after a few minutes i said "fine ill go, but when we're done tonight you wont be able to walk lol" (leg day). That was the end of the convo and i told her i had to head out for a little.

Anways a few hours later, i head to evening class and sit by her. We bull**** for a little bit, and once class is over me and her walk out to the parkin lot. Today she brought her e46 (SWEET! shes a bmw girl), and she told me to race lol. Anyways we get to the gym and we work otu and talk quite alot. After an hour, during our last exercise, I ask her what she'll be doing tomm and thats when everythign went down the sh1tter. She said "My boyfriend and his mom want to take me to some jazz fest thing at a restaurant". FOR the love of god WTF??? I just kept my cool and changed subjects real quick. After another 10 minutes, we finish up our workout and head for the door. I dont know if she expected a hug or anything, but as we walked to our cars, i said "Alright [name], ill talk to ya later. Don't drive too fast now!!". She replied with "I WILL".

Anways there you guys go. Im stiting here feeling depressed that this girl has a boyfriend. She is beautiful and i feel we can really talk about stuff and relate, but i dont know what to do. Help guys seriously, i dont know what to do.
Another thing i want to add is that the last time i was with her, she mentioned her mom going out of town for spring break, and her having hte house to herself. She asked me what i was going to be doing over break..I said i might go to cali, but it might fall through.. I dont know what this girl wants..

Also is it bad that i didnt give her a hug last night after we were done with the gym? We just split once i reached my car. She walked to her car alone, i didnt follow her there, but while she was walking i yelled out a "bye".
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Tell her to talk to you when shes single. Period. End of story. You haven't got shyt out of her anyway. She just wants your attention. Why even ask this question?
 

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I see no reason to make a big deal out of this, nothing happened.
Girls who are interested dont tell you about the bf and throw it in your face like that. The ones that do are looking for attention and claiming theyre already taken (have value).
 
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fapper2 said:
Another thing i want to add is that the last time i was with her, she mentioned her mom going out of town for spring break, and her having hte house to herself. She asked me what i was going to be doing over break..
Hmmmmm,Hmmmmmmmmm, Hmm - If you don't go to Cali take her up on her offer!!! I'll be honest with you kid, all half decent women nowadays have a "b/f" (i.e. pimp) so don't let that bother you!! You just need to probe and test her a little!!
 

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The thing is this girl keeps giving me hints that she likes me (atleast i think so). I came to class 30 minutes late a few days back, and she mentioned she was glad i was late, becuase she had to do a little presentation. She mentioned she would have been nervous if i were there..


Lastly, yesterday was the only time she brought up her bf...I was about to ask her out--thats why I asked her what she was doing friday. You could imagine how bad i felt when i heard her say the bf thing...

Maybe she is waiting for me to make a move?? As far as physical contact all ive done is touch her while she works out. For example, while she was doing lat pull downs, i brushed her elbows with my fingers, and told her to "go this low". She seemed to like it. I have NOT hugged her or shaked her hand, EVER. Maybe i should go for a hug next time, to give her a subtle hint that im into her..
 
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fapper2 said:
The thing is this girl keeps giving me hints that she likes me (atleast i think so). I came to class 30 minutes late a few days back, and she mentioned she was glad i was late, becuase she had to do a little presentation. She mentioned she would have been nervous if i were there..
This is a good sign of interest!! Probe and test...a "b/f" today means "I'm having sex"!!!!!
 

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fapper2 said:
The thing is this girl keeps giving me hints that she likes me (atleast i think so). I came to class 30 minutes late a few days back, and she mentioned she was glad i was late, becuase she had to do a little presentation. She mentioned she would have been nervous if i were there../QUOTE]This is a good sign of interest!! Probe and test...a "b/f" today means "I'm having sex"!!!!!
The class we are in is a medical class. One time the professor brought up "plan B" (kinda like the day after pill for those who dont know). Anyways, she leaned over to me and whispered "i took that once"... There is a chance she is being railed right now.

Anyways man, im sure she'll ask me to come to the gym with her tuesday (or earlier). Instead ill drag her to the mall with me to help me pick out some shoes first. Then ill make her buy me coffee, and while we sit down ill play with her hands (im a pro at this lol). Ill see how she responds..if its positive, ill take it a step furthur. Im determined to get this chick. Ill update when it happens
 
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fapper2 said:
The class we are in is a medical class. One time the professor brought up "plan B" (kinda like the day after pill for those who dont know). Anyways, she leaned over to me and whispered "i took that once"... There is a chance she is being railed right now.
Damn, I'm always right! Yes, no "maybe about it",she is being "nailed" in a hurried and frantic state as the likes of a roof shingle before the storm!!!!!

She is a hor - hors want to have the penis but don't want the responsibility of the fruit that it bears!!! you must approach her as a hor and not as a delicate flower! You must have a sexual state that is obvious to her and not a "buddy" persona! friend!!

DJF or John - can you chime in here???
 

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Damn, I'm always right! Yes, no "maybe about it",she is being "nailed" in a hurried and frantic state as the likes of a roof shingle before the storm!!!!!

She is a hor - hors want to have the penis but don't want the responsibility of the fruit that it bears!!! you must approach her as a hor and not as a delicate flower! You must have a sexual state that is obvious to her and not a "buddy" persona! friend!!

DJF or John - can you chime in here???
your getting me pumped up man. Watch, this tuesday, im gonna **** her in the back of her SUV. Ill report back. IF i fail someone can come punch me in the face
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Bloody hell. All of the info you need is on the Tips page, or posts by Pook, Fingers and others. Get in there and read up, man!!!

With boyfriends hovering around, I think it's time to test her interest levels. Get her phone number then call and ask her out to a specific event or just for coffee/chai tea. If she declines with some lame excuse, put her on the back burner and chase other girls. Next time you talk to her, you should be able to say, "Hey I met a sweet girl. Early days yet though. But life is too short, don't you agree?" Then gauge her reaction. "Met" can just mean chatted up and got her phone number. I don't like lying or blatant manipulation games...if you really did meet someone else, then tell her that, it will be totally genuine and make her think. In theory, anyway :D
 

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Mentioning a boyfriend does not always indicate disinterest. She could be mentioning the boyfriend so that way if you try to seduce her it wouldn't be her fault if anything happens between the two of you.

Another thing i want to add is that the last time i was with her, she mentioned her mom going out of town for spring break, and her having hte house to herself. She asked me what i was going to be doing over break..I said i might go to cali, but it might fall through.. I dont know what this girl wants..

Also is it bad that i didnt give her a hug last night after we were done with the gym? We just split once i reached my car. She walked to her car alone, i didnt follow her there, but while she was walking i yelled out a "bye".


Thats her trying to tell you that she wants your d!ck! I have four words for you man... Don't fvck it up! Stop trying so damn hard to not care and just don't care and do your thing. Hell you can even try to bag yourself another chick or two for the time being just to prevent oneitis.
 

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UPDATE

ok well i just got a text from her after 4 days. she said:

"hey, we should go to the gym after class tomorrow"

Should i go? What should i say? I kinda want to go to the mall with her since i want to pick out some shoes first. Should i just tell her that?

Also is it best to text back, call, or talk over msn (she is online)
 
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Don't go to the gym with her or to the malll!!!!!!! This is not a way to attract a grl! You need to test for interest! Can you do that as her gym partner or shopping buddy? :rolleyes:

Don't be her online buddy either!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Last Man Standing said:
Don't go to the gym with her or to the malll!!!!!!! This is not a way to attract a grl! You need to test for interest! Can you do that as her gym partner or shopping buddy? :rolleyes:

Don't be her online buddy either!
what should i do then? ignore her and tell her im busy??? please give me advice. I wanted to go buy shoes and then sporadically ask her to grab some coffee with me. Thats where i would kino her and fvck with her head.

I responded a little while back saying "Ill think about it, if im not busy".
 
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Say, "The gym is too boring - let's do something more exciting.....like sex" No, don't say the ending - but you know what I mean!
 

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Say, "The gym is too boring - let's do something more exciting.....like sex" No, don't say the ending - but you know what I mean!
ok but is it a bad idea to take her to the mall with me? and then grab coffee?

I also want to buy a nice lacoste shirt, so i can take her to the changing room with me and get naked. Im ripped and ill have her feel my muscles. Yeaa baby were gonna fvck in the changin room.
 
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She probably knows you are ripped considering that she goes to the gym with you.

I see where you are going here - sounds ok --- I just don't like boys and girls going shopping together as buddies. You are going the indirect approach - I rather know right away if the interest is there so that I don't get strung along on a hope and dream. Depends on your personality - do what you are comfortable with.

I was respondiing to her IM - which would be odd to suggest shopping in your response to her.
 

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She probably knows you are ripped considering that she goes to the gym with you.

I see where you are going here - sounds ok --- I just don't like boys and girls going shopping together as buddies. You are going the indirect approach - I rather know right away if the interest is there so that I don't get strung along on a hope and dream. Depends on your personality - do what you are comfortable with.

I was respondiing to her IM - which would be odd to suggest shopping in your response to her.
oh cool. WEll i didnt tell her anything about shopping yet. I just sent her that one message and left it at that. Ill just ask her right after evening class tomorrow.
 
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