"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hugging = Effective Kino?

amazingswayze

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It's been on my mind lately. I'll include a short anecdote.

Today on campus I was walking with my bro. We stumble upon two girls we met at Bingo last week, HB6 B, and HB6.5 D. I give them hugs. We chat for a few, and the third girl HB7 Jess appears out of nowhere. This is the one I was supposed to grab coffee with. I give her a hug too. Dina has a funny last name so I teased her and she poked me a bit. We had a decent 5 min conversation since I had to get for class and I got pretty positive reactions, being friendly and cool. I already have their numbers and most definitely will make plans sometime soon.

I think that hugs make the whole situation more personal and friendlier.

So, everytime I meet a girl now, I shake her hand, and if I have established decent rapport, I will give a goodbye hug.

Hugs are the simplest form of kino I can think of.

What I'm wondering is does it actually count as kino to you guys, or is it a behavior that will land you right in the friend zone?

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EDIT:

Personal thoughts on my brief encounter...

When I unexpectedly encounter girls, I usually don't think much. I'm not at a loss for words, but I could be making face to face plans, using more kino, anything. I am less proactive when I have a short window of opportunity. This isn't really a big problem because in a sense, it's good that I don't think too much. But what I will say is that I don't make the most out of my opportunities. I will practice kino. This is one of the most important things I can do for my game right now to build rapport with any girl and to make a move more organically. Practice, practice, practice.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Hugs at the end of a first date have always meant a second date in my experience. Aside from that it's pretty meh
 

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amazingswayze said:
It's been on my mind lately. I'll include a short anecdote.

Today on campus I was walking with my bro. We stumble upon two girls we met at Bingo last week, HB6 B, and HB6.5 D. I give them hugs. We chat for a few, and the third girl HB7 Jess appears out of nowhere. This is the one I was supposed to grab coffee with. I give her a hug too. Dina has a funny last name so I teased her and she poked me a bit. We had a decent 5 min conversation since I had to get for class and I got pretty positive reactions, being friendly and cool. I already have their numbers and most definitely will make plans sometime soon.

I think that hugs make the whole situation more personal and friendlier.

So, everytime I meet a girl now, I shake her hand, and if I have established decent rapport, I will give a goodbye hug.

Hugs are the simplest form of kino I can think of.

What I'm wondering is does it actually count as kino to you guys, or is it a behavior that will land you right in the friend zone?

Thoughts on Hugs = Effective Kino?



EDIT:

Personal thoughts on my brief encounter...

When I unexpectedly encounter girls, I usually don't think much. I'm not at a loss for words, but I could be making face to face plans, using more kino, anything. I am less proactive when I have a short window of opportunity. This isn't really a big problem because in a sense, it's good that I don't think too much. But what I will say is that I don't make the most out of my opportunities. I will practice kino. This is one of the most important things I can do for my game right now to build rapport with any girl and to make a move more organically. Practice, practice, practice.
Kino is kino.

Could be as small as tapping her on the shoulder or something more extreme like slapping her *ss. Hugs don't land you in the friend zone, it's your behavior that does. Your whole approach on shaking her hand and then good-bye hug is fine.
 

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I think it depends on how you hug, for example: Hugging my sister, I go ass out to avoid any sort of contact, but when I am hugging a girl at the end of a date, I pull her in for a close hug. The other night I finished hugging this girl and then I said, "hold on, I need another one" and she smiled and agreed. So is it Kino? Maybe if your doing the right thing with your body and hands.
 

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It depends on how you do it. If you want to hug a woman and let her know you want her, make sure you hug her with your hand on her lower back, NOT touching her @ss. Then wrap your other arm across her upper back around the shoulders.

Let her come in a press against you, if she does then hug her a little tighter. If you are sporting a woody, so much the better. Trust me, women LOVE this.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I say of course hugs count. One of the aims of kino is to establish yourself as a man who is comfortable and accustomed to touching women. Hugging accomplishes this.
 
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