"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PeterCrouch

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Chatting to some woman I work with. This was the end of our convo. The start is about how she is being stalked at worked by some pakistan guy. Thoughts...

9:51pmHer
hahahaha
i guess i been cursed to attract them pakistani guys.yuk.

9:52pmMe
lucky girl.
could be worse, u could have the affections of the honey monster that is blah blah

9:53pmHer
lol yeah.
hahahaha
she she said i look pregnant the other day wtf? lol

9:54pmMe
haha. probably gonna be a pakistan baby too.
with your rep.

9:54pmHer
haha
it aint even funny lol
all them pakistan guys are perverts.its shockin;/

9:55pmMe
haha. only one tbf. thats a racist generalisation right there.

9:55pmHer
not only one. he aint the only one lol.hes just one that perseveres and hopes to score lol
9:57pmHer
the rest gets lost when i tell them to

9:57pmMe
haha, who are the rest? whats it about you that everyone loves then miss popular?

9:58pmHer
i got no clue;/ i think im just too nice and that leads them on;/ and thats what i hate about asda.the job requires u to be nice to people lol.

9:59pmMe
haha, if only they knew what i knew. about how horrible you are. they'd see you for who you really are

10:02pmHer
i know! lol;p will start to treat them like **** and we will see how they gna like that lol;p although the persevering one doesnt care how rude i am to him told him many times to get lost, yet he is still comin back.yay (!)

10:03pmMe
haha, he like me, probably just gets horny when you start all the fighting talk.
your only hope for him is to sleep with him and then it'll be over

10:03pmHer
hahaha
yea right
gonna make a complain of sexual harrasment and stalkin at work.that should get rid off him

10:04pmMe
haha, yeh. that should do it. ****ing hell, remind me never to try and chat you up if thats how it ends up lol

10:05pmHer
haha. wouldnt raise legal ection against u xD unless u would keep botherin me like him! he even stalked me when i was in town on friday with my mum.he was followin us all the time;/

10:08pmMe
haha. gotta admire a mans persistance

10:08pmHer
please;/ its kinda freaky u know

10:09pmMe
lol, i know. i get it all the time.

10:10pmHer
lol do ya;d

10:11pmMe
yee. its tough. all these people pestering me and my family. i just want a normal girl

10:11pmHer
awww

10:13pmMe
ha, and all the paki men seem to love me too. quite embarrasing.

10:13pmHer
haha!:D
see;d so u know exactly how i feel lol;p

10:14pmMe
yeah, but the difference is, i'd sleep with someone if they were that persistant. lol

10:14pmHer
no if they make u feel sick u wouldnt
lol
wouldnt even wanna touch him with a stick
blaah

10:15pmMe
haha. harsh.

10:16pmHer
honesty is the best policy lol

10:17pmMe
lol sure

10:18pmHer
;D

10:19pmMe
winking at me will only encourage me to keep bothering you. which will only end up in probable legal action lol.

10:20pmHer
lmao
nah u r fine;p
i would take less drastic action with u;D haha;p

10:22pmMe
haha you'd sleep with me? oooh, thats nice of you agnes lol

10:22pmHer
hahahahahahahaha
yeaa u wish;p

10:23pmMe
nah. not with you being pregnant.

10:23pmHer
lol yea course;p says lisa;p

10:25pmMe
well with all the pakis you've been sleeping with i wouldn't be suprised. haha

10:25pmHer
not even one lol;p
dont find them attractive;p
mind u guys from india are alright lol;p

10:27pmMe
whaaaaaaaaat? that doesn't make sense. but im pretty sure your a racist and a paki ***** so im off! haha. tally ho angry woman x

10:27pmHer
haha gonna kick ur ass when i next see ya!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ice882

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dangerously close to friend zone!
 

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Ice882 said:
dangerously close to friend zone!
Agreed.



Umm...Pete....Peter...if I may ask,what was the point of that conversation?


If your goal was to gain a new friend,then you're well on your way,but if you're interested in dating this girl,then why didn't the subject of you two dating ever come up?


You spent more time talking about her and her so-called "stalker" than the two of you possibly seeing each other.



A little teasing is good,but as I read it,I kept waiting for the serious part about you wanting to see her come up....and it never did.




You seem to have the comfort part handled pretty well,but where's the attraction?



If this conversation had some sort of purpose to it,if there was some sort of goal you were hoping to achieve,you mind telling us what it was?
 

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i felt like you were putting her on the pedestal a lot (not literally by complimenting her or showering her with ass-kissing), but after reading the passaage, I just felt like she was on the pedestal and you were talking to her. But if I felt it, i bet she felt it too. or am i wrong. be honest with us so we can help.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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it was all fluff talk man! you did not push to get together....keep that kind of stuff face to face, so you can kino her...not text. use the cell to call her to set up a date! and nothing else!
 

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Igetit! said:
A little teasing is good,but as I read it,I kept waiting for the serious part about you wanting to see her come up....and it never did.
BINGO!
I kept waiting for it and just as it seemed he was about to push it forward.......

NOTHING.

Peter, I hope you enjoy being this woman's work-husband, because that's probably as far as you can go at this point unless you switch it up.

The conversation could pull a few chuckles, but nothing in there to make my gina tingle if I were a female. And that's what you need to strive for.
 

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Was this text messages? or Internet?

I tend to keep both instances short and sweet with heavy flirting. If its not reciprocated I cut off both types.

Why? Because look at whats happening. Your askin if you did well. Your thinking!

Cut the text/internet please. Do yourself a favor. You will stop thinking as much and start acting. And so will she if the IL is there.
 
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