"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Onion

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I started talking to this girl (HB9, lots of beta orbiters and not short of attention!!) She does some charity work on the side (she's a councilor and psychologist) which I am fascinated by and asked her about her business and the work that she does.

We talked for hrs last night and I told her I'd like to meet her soon. She said she'd look at her schedule and let me know.
Then this morning she sent this text ...

' I was a little confused about our conversation last night. Question for you.. are you interested in me or are you interested in learning more about the business? Don't get me wrong i like meeting new people just want to be clear. I talked to one of the VPs of the company last night and I wanted to introduce you to him over the phone but that would depend upon your interest!!'

Help me out here guys, where do you see this going? What would be the best response without sounding too needy and being honest

P.S. on one of our previous conversations she said she wasn't ready for a relationship but wouldn't resist if it happens etc
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Dhoulmagus

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Just say what you are really interested in. If she says no than oh well.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Dont respond at all...very odd power play by her
This^

Minus the odd part. In fact it's not odd at all. She's NOT interested.
P.S. on one of our previous conversations she said she wasn't ready for a relationship but wouldn't resist if it happens etc
Read this^ as....

"on one of our previous conversations she said she wasn't ready for a relationship with ME and does NOT find me attractive enough."

She's essentially using this company as an excuse to soft reject you. If you have interest in the company, go for it. If your interest was just in this woman, let it go.
 

El Payaso

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Yeah. No response. What an ignorant statement. Feigning like she doesn't know. Dumb.
 

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A little late? Heard you bros but too late. Anyways I was surprised to get this text this morning. Every indication from her was she was interested. We even talked about dating and the kinda man she's be interested in etc.

I may have played some part in the confusion too as I was very much fascinated by her job as I was and still am involved with some charity work helping young kids.

Anyways I replied back this ...

'My morning has been busy for the most part bla bla ...to the question directly, yes I am interested in you and part of my interest in you is cause of the work you do which I think is great! I'd very much like to get to know you. I am sorry if that left you with confusion. I like to know about the business too and i think it would be good to be introduced to the VP. I dont know if that makes things clear.'

She replied back ..
'Things are clear!'
'Have a productive day and we will talk after work'

We had a plan to talk late this evening. Then i replied back

'you too have a great day ahead!'
'Sure thing'

Any thoughts? A sign of any interest in her part?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You mixed up stuff even more after your last conversation, not making clear that you are interested in HER. and that not even should be said but in this case you cut the b.s. You should never mix business and game.. and this conversation should have taken place in person. not extended conversations through the phone.
 

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Onion said:
Anyways I replied back this ...

'My morning has been busy for the most part bla bla ...to the question directly, yes I am interested in you and part of my interest in you is cause of the work you do which I think is great! I'd very much like to get to know you. I am sorry if that left you with confusion. I like to know about the business too and i think it would be good to be introduced to the VP. I dont know if that makes things clear
Parts in bold. Can't stop. Cringing. Can't... stop...

Onion said:
Any thoughts? A sign of any interest in her part?
It doesn't really matter if she is interested. Your frame is weak, that's what you should be concerned about. It's pretty unlikely she's interested in you, and even if she is it won't last long with this weak ****.
 

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Yewki, that's because she asked how my morning was going. I notice you're not that familiar with Brit politeness.

But then there's a difference between answering a question with respect and being a total a**hole! Let's see if her interest is real or not but I will have learned a few things by then.

Roni, I dont know if I can make it any clearer than what i said. I was I was interested. Did you read my reply?

Thanks for the reply though guys. Still learning
 

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Yeah bro your reply was weak. She is loving life because she is off the hook.

I would have said "If you kiss me well enough I could be interested in the company."

Bro never reply or react to a woman. She was trying to get an emotional response out of you and she got it.
 

Yewki

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Onion said:
Yewki, that's because she asked how my morning was going. I notice you're not that familiar with Brit politeness.

But then there's a difference between answering a question with respect and being a total a**hole! Let's see if her interest is real or not but I will have learned a few things by then.
You're comparing two extremes though. I don't think anyone recommends being an a**hole. But your messages to her are long winded, overly considerate, and lack direction. This tells her among other things that you're needy, don't have a whole lot going on, and probably lack confidence. Guys who act like this can still have success with women, but it's limited and leads down a frustrating road indeed.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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