"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How would you rate yourself?

How do you rate yourself overall

  • 10

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 10 23.3%
  • 8

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • 7

    Votes: 8 18.6%
  • 6

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3-4

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • 1-2

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Total voters
    43

zekko

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n00bPimp said:
Obviously someone giving themselves a 9 or above rating is being egotistical, because otherwise he would be too busy enjoying an awesome life full of love rather than be here
I don't know, I think the guys who have rated themselves a 10 may have the right idea. It's believing in yourself to the utmost.

But when I see a poll like this, I try to be objective. I can see being delusionally self confident (nothing wrong with that). The problem comes when you tell yourself you're a ten and then you're not getting results consistent with that belief. That's when your ego can take a blow.

Just don't ask me to go by that Roissy dating value quiz, I'm lucky to get a two out of that thing. I know damn well I'm a lot higher than a frigging two. Roissy can shove it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just a Shot Away

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JdelaSilviera said:
For instance, guys with great eyes no matter how unsymmetrical is their face, have chicks garanteed for the rest of their life.
Oh, man. You always find ways to one-up yourself. First it was "looks are all that matters." Now it's "nice eyes = guaranteed play for life." You live in a f.uckin' vacuum, dude. I don't know who the hell told you all this crap but you seriously need to set foot out the door once in awhile.

Have you even read the Bible? I mean, obviously you have zero background in science but I'm just curious if you've familiarized yourself with the basics of seduction since you've been here.
 

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Just a Shot Away said:
Oh, man. You always find ways to one-up yourself. First it was "looks are all that matters." Now it's "nice eyes = guaranteed play for life." You live in a f.uckin' vacuum, dude. I don't know who the hell told you all this crap but you seriously need to set foot out the door once in awhile.

Have you even read the Bible? I mean, obviously you have zero background in science but I'm just curious if you've familiarized yourself with the basics of seduction since you've been here.
JSO, you really make my day.
1) We all know by now, that you are a liar. Your list of nobel prize winners who agree with you on "looks don´t matter" is a joke, and a completle dubious, and twisted kind of thinking.
I´m almost certain you didn´t even went to college (as myself and many others here who know looks do matter), so you should just shut up when you talk about others background.

2) Evolution has much to be understood yet. Even if women in the past didn´t chose men on their looks, they could do it today, because they have less worries in terms of safety. Not to tell that evolution is a series of anecdotes, it´s not even an exact science like quantum mechanics or gravitational theory.

3) Have you ever heard girls talking about, tall dark and handsome?, or nice smile and great eyes? For instance girls drool over Jesse Williams (google if you don´t know) on greys anatomy (and it´s not because he is famous, everyone there is). This is an example that you can have an ugly face and be considered gorgeous just because your eyes.
And of course I see this daily in my life. It´s almost painful to see in my town, that 90% of the hottest girls only date blue/green eyed guys (whom are a minority), it´s sickening their fascination with them. Many of those guys were ugly, and I was almost deceived into thinking they were confident dudes.... but when they all have great eyes it´s a no brainer... since I know many confident dudes that don´t get any.
You live in the vacuum, I live in the real life.

Of course game matters, and book of pook is a decent book... but it´s not the holy grail of seduction. And many women don´t like the silly, seductive playful talk..... with those you don´t have a chance if you are not good looking..
 
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You say all this but really, you know you just voted yourself a "10" up above. :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

Just a Shot Away said:
Oh, man. You always find ways to one-up yourself. First it was "looks are all that matters." Now it's "nice eyes = guaranteed play for life." You live in a f.uckin' vacuum, dude. I don't know who the hell told you all this crap but you seriously need to set foot out the door once in awhile.

Have you even read the Bible? I mean, obviously you have zero background in science but I'm just curious if you've familiarized yourself with the basics of seduction since you've been here.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'll play this game. But what I'm about to say in no way means that women - or anyone else who is not you - should be a driving force in your decision making:

I rate myself a 7/10 in the looks dept and an 11/10 in the personality dept. But I do so realizing that, as it pertains to other people, it doesn't matter how I rate myself.

This is, I admit, a fun thing to do. But newbies take note: your self worth is only valuable to others if you ACTUATE it. Meaning it's great and all if you know that you're the sh*t, but you need to actually be awesome as well.

It's more important to be than to think. And chances are, if you've got the "being" part down pat, you're probably thinking just fine.
 

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Strength - 9
Dexterity - 12
Constitution - 12
Intelligence - 15
Wisdom - 13
Charisma - 8

Grapple Modifier - 12

Special Powers: Ability to make women disappear from 100' radius
 

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r0cky said:
I asked to rate yourself overall, not by your looks.

This is about how you feel about yourself.
Oh, in that case, I can't rate myself until you increase the maximum rating to atleast 100.

highconscienceness said:
I'm a 3 or a 4 since I have issues that I need to handle. Biggest one is bad self image.
Haha, sucks to be you. :p
 

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Amazing that most guys here say they are 8s or 9s. On a forum on how to pick up girls. Maybe Just a Shot Away is right!

I rated myself a 7, meaning looks basically.

But there's another part of me that thinks that every woman should swoon as soon as I walk into the room. They should gather round, sit on the floor, and grab me by the legs like a movie poster. I find the fact that this doesn't really happen extremely annoying.
:)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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zekko said:
Amazing that most guys here say they are 8s or 9s. On a forum on how to pick up girls. Maybe Just a Shot Away is right
Perhaps some of us aren't here for advice...but to laugh at some of the stories (Good and bad) that are posted and to network with other awesome guys. Ofcourse good tips do come along sometimes...but almost all of the good stuff has been on here for a long time...aka Pook, Senior Fingers, the DJ Bible, etc.
 

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Lucifero said:
Perhaps some of us aren't here for advice
Oh, that's very true. I am always looking to learn something but the main reason I stick around is that I find the subject of attraction very interesting - always have.

I find it extremely hard to believe that nearly half the guys here are 8s or 9s though. Very hard to believe.
 

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zekko said:
I find it extremely hard to believe that nearly half the guys here are 8s or 9s though. Very hard to believe.
I, personally, dont give a **** nor do I care what they think they are. If they lied on the poll it makes no difference to me because the only person they are tricking is themselves.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Im good looking (like maybe an 8 idk, girls always check me out), but my weak inner game + lack of money has definitely took its toll on my rateability. If I had a nice pad and whip I'd probably be a 9, but atm I'm definitely hovering around 6/7.
 
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