"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How would you raise your daughter?

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Ive raised 2, made sure they both had a work ethic, and they do, they dont take things for granted, certainly never spoiled, love them to bits and made sure they know it, they also know there is a line they dont cross.
lots of love but firm boundaries.
Cant stop them being emotional females though, thye still are and can be but Im immensley proud of them, they are independant and dont rely on others, they are caring and nice people.
 

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I believe that by raising you can do more harm than good. Teach by example.

However, I would like to be positive towards them not making them feel bad about themselves. Correcting them very carefully....I hated that "Oh you did very well, but you should put more paint in here, and here, and here."

Certainly I wouldn't push them to live my dreams. It has to be so much stressful for girls right now. Be a president, play soccer, be independent....not that it is a bad thing but they are in collision course with their feminine nature. The same it is for guys when told...be nice, don't ever hit anyone etc.

Abstain from indoctrinating them. Raise them to be open minded.

I'm gonna have some troubles with that though. My little sister is getting older and I caught myself preparing a shot gun on the suitors. You want my sister? You gotta get pass me. The biggest shyt test ever invented.
 

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Mine's 16.

Gorgeous. Brilliant.

She's in Orlando this week for a robotics competition (she writes binary code for robots). She's in Atlanta next week for the same reason.

My kid is hip to Game. I taught her everything I could about "Players" and "Seductionists". She's caused guys to weep openly because they don't know how to Game her.

We were out at dinner and she pointed out dudes were "Peacocking". Pathetically peacocking.

Makes a Dad proud.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Mine's 16.

Gorgeous. Brilliant.

She's in Orlando this week for a robotics competition (she writes binary code for robots). She's in Atlanta next week for the same reason.

My kid is hip to Game. I taught her everything I could about "Players" and "Seductionists". She's caused guys to weep openly because they don't know how to Game her.

We were out at dinner and she pointed out dudes were "Peacocking". Pathetically peacocking.

Makes a Dad proud.
This is good! :yes:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Chronocidal said:
Just out of curiosity, how would you want or expect boys/men who are interested in her to attempt to connect with her romantosexually, if "peacocking" (i.e. differentiating oneself visually from the crowd) is considered "pathetic" and "game" (i.e. social skills for men) is something considered problematic?
I think KarmaSutra just wants her to be informed so she doesn't get manipulated.

Chronocidal said:
Is making someone who is interested in romantosexual activity weep openly considered a good thing?
There isn't much "romance" in romantosexual from a "game" standpoint. Romance is pretty much a dirty word on the DJ forum.

As to the original question, that is a tough one. Questions like this are one of the reasons I don't have children.

Most of the guys on here are always railing against feminism. Does that mean they would raise their daughter to be a housewife? Somehow I doubt it. Guys here want sex from a girl the first night they meet them. Does that mean they would raise their daughter to give it out so freely? Somehow I doubt it.
 

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zekko said:
Most of the guys on here are always railing against feminism. Does that mean they would raise their daughter to be a housewife? Somehow I doubt it. Guys here want sex from a girl the first night they meet them. Does that mean they would raise their daughter to give it out so freely?
Zekko this is a paradox that I can certainly relate to.

My daughter is 2 so I haven't had to think about this. But the clock is ticking.
 

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Chronocidal, put an age on your profile. Read the Mature Man's forum rules.
 

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Chronocidal said:
Just out of curiosity, how would you want or expect boys/men who are interested in her to attempt to connect with her romantosexually, if "peacocking" (i.e. differentiating oneself visually from the crowd) is considered "pathetic" and "game" (i.e. social skills for men) is something considered problematic?
She's interested in guys who are interested in, and passionate about, their future and other things than getting into her pants.

Look, I'm not your average Dad. I was 16 once and I know what I was doing. She's completely informed and knows full well what happens if she doesn't have the mental strength to combat her flowering hormones.

And, my daughter is absolutely stunning to look at. She models during school break. This makes it critical that she be as informed and schooled in Game than any other.

As of 13 minutes ago her robotics team, Red Alliance, is in first place at the V.E.Z. Robotics competition in Orlando!

Is making someone who is interested in romantosexual activity weep openly considered a good thing?
It's a good thing from a Paternal perspective. Like here, it separates the men from he-b!tches.

When you raise a young lady through this phantasmagoria of change and technology, you'll appreciate it when she can look at a dude, who probably is a member here and has read my posts, try to spit Game at her and have her counter it effortlessly.
 
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