"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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slitherjef

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Okay, so at work I have gotten into saying "hi" and "hows it going" to chicks who happen to stray close enough for me to interact with them... on a "Professional level" that is. So I was wondering, is there a way I could turn a customer/employee interaction into something more? Say like perhaps a number out of the interaction?

I know I can be light and funny, Im pretty good at making people laugh so thats not a problem. The problem I have is crossing that employee/customer line. So, how would I go about crossing that line with out looking desperate for trying to get a number from a customer? What visual cue or what would I need to listen for to know that a chick who I was talking to wants me to cross that employee/customer line to a personal line?

An example would be great you guys!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Strike up a conversation. Take it further than just hello. Talk about her interests and commonalities. Once you have to go your separate ways, tell her you'd like to continue the conversation again and nonchalantly get her number. Now, if it's a woman you see often, just flirt with her when you see her each time. Do it confidently and unapologetically. Make it as normal as the conversation. If you get nervous when you flirt, then you'll just come off creepy.

I work with a guy that's 45, short, fat, and bald. He can talk to any woman. If he wasn't married, he could probably get laid all he wants. Women come to his desk all the time. They bring him donuts and all kinds of goodies.

Learn the art of conversation, and learn how to make a woman comfortable talking to you. There is so much information out there to help you, but you have to be willing to actually take the time to read it instead of seeking quick answers on here.
 

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are you a mcdonalds employee? if you are, unless she's 14 , she'll think of you as a loser


women look at status when choosing men , you working at a shmuck job isn't going to tell her that you'll be supporting her 8+ looks ass when she can get any guy with $$$ anytime.

thats the biggest reason why your customer/employee relationship never result in a date.

you are low value ( in status ) in her eyes unless you much better looking then her.
 

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I'm just guessing you never dated anyone you had to work with before. Be careful because, you are going to have to see her everytime you go to work.

1.This means that if the dating goes well and you 2 eventually move in together, you will see her at work and at home and your just going to get sick of her.

2.If things don't go well, she can bring your value down- to all the other girls at work. Girls love to gossip.

If your not concerned about either of those scenarios, then keep things light and humorous and bring them into your frame of mind.
 

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jcap said:
are you a mcdonalds employee? if you are, unless she's 14 , she'll think of you as a loser

WTF!? No. I do not work at McDonalds and hit on 14 year olds. And those women you say who are attracted to status who will not date me because they think I have a $hitty job and I would not be able to support their 8+ asses are GOLD DIGGERS!!! I work to support myself, NOT THEM!



And djmac, I am trying to figure out what you are talking about... you are talking about me dating co-workers, my post was about me (an employee) dating a CUSTOMER. I have attempted to date a co-worker and managed to date one but things got awkward and did not work out. So dating a co-worker is something I would like to advoid.

If I can get a date while I am on the job, then good for me. If not, I don't really care

Mavrick,
Thanks for the good post!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Take the conversation out of the 'employee - customer' context and reframe it into the customer context, which is ultimately 'normal' everyday context i.e. when you're not working and just being sociable

so, something like:

you: (while taking her order or collecting money, whatever) oh, haha, I'm not in the best state today haha - me and my buddies had an amazing night yesturday, lets just say it involved (hmn, thinking to yourself and smiling)big playboy style pink -girls shoes, red lipstick and lots of laughter hahah.


"me and my buddies had an amazing night yesturday"

Few things to notice here, you're taking a subject that is outside of your work and therefore in relation to the girl (since she is in that 'outside work' context)


"lets just say it involved (hmn, thinking to yourself and smiling) big, playboy style, pink girls shoes, red lipstick and lots of laughter hahah"

Then some mumbo-jumbo details to lend the event more credence and making it interesting. The three things I picked would, in my opinion, evoke interest from the girl and get her to ask something like, "playboy styles shoes?!" basically a verbal peacock for her to latch onto.

Chose 'pink' due to connotations to femininity, red lipstick to evoke images of passion, desire and sex and of course 'laughter' to let her know you're a fun and social guy.

this gives her opportunities to ask you questions and from there you can take it further, get a good giggle out of her, and at that high point, close the deal:

you: hahaa, you seem like fun, i'll let you come along to one of our adventures haha, here (handing over pen and paper), put your number on there

done!
 
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