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How would a Don Juan deal with a bully who talks alot of stuff?

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Yeah, well there's this guy named Tony at my school, who teases me alot, makes fun of me and if I say **** to him, he punches me. Recently, I've gotten tired of this dumbass pushing me around and mostly everytime I see this dude in the hallway, he pushes me and as he starts walking away because he thinks I'm going to take his ****, I push him back, heck, one time today when he pushed me in the hall, started acting all tough and talking stuff, I slammed him against a locker, infront of a whole bunch of people, between classes.

Last year this dude actually helped me in a lot of ways, he would tease me about how I "Only took showers once a week" and "How my clothes were too tight and how I dressed badly.", I took that as constructive critisism and now I take showers every school day and wear more comfortable clothes. Then this dude starts calling me names like "Freakazoid" and several other things infront of his friends, I would try to laugh things off like I didn't really care, but inside, I really wanted to kick his ass. Up until recently, I've coped with his name calling, **** talking and stuff, recently I decided to stand up for myself and not take his **** anymore. I use to be afraid of this guy, but I'm not taking his **** anymore. I started to realize that no matter what I do, this dude will always find something to tease me about.

I use to think there was a better way of settling things out with this guy, ignoring him, talking to him, but no that won't work with a guy like Tony. Plus, how am I just suppose to take that? A guy pushing me in the hallway everyday, knowing that I won't do **** about it? Exactly, I don't take it and I show this guy that I'm not that easy and retaliate. I've asked this guy to stop messing with me several times, but the ******* just laughs and keeps doing **** to me, because he knew that I wouldn't do **** and he knew I was an easy target. Right now, I'm thinking the only way that I can show this guy that I'm not to be ****ed with and I'm not one to take mess from people, is to ****ing beat his ass, show him what will happen if he doesn't stop. But again, I really don't want to fight, but what other way is there? If I tell on him, word goes around that I'm a snitch and even if someone does sit down and talk to Tony, nothing will change, he'll still be doing the same old ****. However, with fighting comes risk, the risk of getting hurt, the risk of a staff member seeing the fight and giving you a dentention, possibly suspension , the risk of getting your ass kicked. So, I want your opinion, if someone was messing with you and no matter what you do, they keep messing with you, what would you do? Would you stand up to them? Would you take their ****? What would you do?
 
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The Nice Guy is Gone

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Originally posted by Viper
Yeah, well there's this guy named Tony at my school, who teases me alot, makes fun of me and if I say **** to him, he punches me. Recently, I've gotten tired of this dumbass pushing me around and mostly everytime I see this dude in the hallway, he pushes me and as he starts walking away because he thinks I'm going to take his ****, I push him back, heck, one time today when he pushed me in the hall, started acting all tough and talking stuff, I slammed him against a locker, infront of a whole bunch of people, between classes.

Last year this dude actually helped me in a lot of ways, he would tease me about how I "Only took showers once a week" and "How my clothes were too tight and how I dressed badly.", I took that as constructive critisism and now I take showers every school day and wear more comfortable clothes. Then this dude starts calling me names like "Freakazoid" and several other things infront of his friends, I would try to laugh things off like I didn't really care, but inside, I really wanted to kick his ass. Up until recently, I've coped with his name calling, **** talking and stuff, recently I decided to stand up for myself and not take his **** anymore. I use to be afraid of this guy, but I'm not taking his **** anymore. I started to realize that no matter what I do, this dude will always find something to tease me about.

I use to think there was a better way of settling things out with this guy, ignoring him, talking to him, but no that won't work with a guy like Tony. Plus, how am I just suppose to take that? A guy pushing me in the hallway everyday, knowing that I won't do **** about it? Exactly, I don't take it and I show this guy that I'm not that easy and retaliate. I've asked this guy to stop messing with me several times, but the ******* just laughs and keeps doing **** to me, because he knew that I wouldn't do **** and he knew I was an easy target. Right now, I'm thinking the only way that I can show this guy that I'm not to be ****ed with and I'm not one to take mess from people, is to ****ing beat his ass, show him what will happen if he doesn't stop. But again, I really don't want to fight, but what other way is there? If I tell on him, word goes around that I'm a snitch and even if someone does sit down and talk to Tony, nothing will change, he'll still be doing the same old ****. However, with fighting comes risk, the risk of getting hurt, the risk of a staff member seeing the fight and giving you a dentention, possibly suspension , the risk of getting your ass kicked. So, I want your opinion, if someone was messing with you and no matter what you do, they keep messing with you, what would you do? Would you stand up to them? Would you take their ****? What would you do?
It sounds like you've told him already to leave you the f*** alone, and if that is the case, next time he messes with you, show him you're not going to take his sh** anymore, and beat his a**. If you end up getting your a$$ kicked, at least you stood up for yourself. If you get detention, so what, stay after school for a little while--tomorrow will still be here.

If you get suspended, again so what--get your classwork from your teachers and get your sh** done at home, and then when you go back, he more than likely won't f*** with you anymore.

You can either take this or leave it--just something I think will help.
 

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Next time he pushes you man, you need to explode on him. He only is pushing you around because he knows you won't do anything about it, so suprise him.

Keep your head down, chin to your chest, amrs up, and start swinging. Aim for the face and neck. Hopefully you will catch him by suprise and you can take him down. If he's bigger/stronger than you, use your speed and distance to your advantage (aka don't let him grab you and put you in a hold)
 

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Next time he pushes you.put ur hands up with the palms towards him in a i dont wanna fight position,act like you are scared,this will rise his ego,and then all the sudden hit him hard as u can on the jaw,this will drop the ****er on the spot!!!!Belive me it works;)
 

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Couple of things you can do:

BULK UP - I am guessing you are either small, skinny or fat and you should hit the gym hard. It will make you bigger and stronger and give you more confident. Also train cardio so you won't run out of breath.

Train at Martial Arts- Boxing, BJJ, Kickboxing, Krav Maga, Russian Martial art, Jodo. After 3-6 months of hard training Tony will be the one with the problems.

Never Walk alone - Play sports and make friends with the big guys. When you walk by yourself then no one can have your back.

Use psychology - Let him know you won't take his ****. When he hits you get up. He pushes you down get up. Even if you can't beat him yet, getting up shows that you will not be his little b1tch.

People will actually look at you with more respect that you can take **** and it doesn't phase you. He would actually start to be afraid of you if he sees you can take it. Eventually If you Bulk up, train in martial arts and you got people watching your back, he will be the one avoiding you.
 

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Violence is such a bad way to solve your problems. At my age it's not really a viable option.

But, in high school, with a bully like that, it's almost your only option. Understand this about bullies. They usually only mess with guys they can get away with pushing around without any consequences. You don't have to win the fight to win the battle. Usually one good shot (a scratch or bloody lip) is enough to keep him off your ass for good.

The next time he disrespects you say something like "Hey man, I really don't want to hassle with you, but I'm sick of you disrespecting me." It probably won't work, but do that to keep your self respect. After you say that to him, the first disrespectful word out of his mouth, attack him as swiftly and as brutally as you can. Remember the goal isn't to win the fight, it's to educate him that his disrespect will have consequences now, and in the future.

Getting your ass kicked is a small price to pay for self respect. I don't know what your fighting skill is, but what you lack in skill, you can make up for with intensity. Do something like fake a punch to the torso, and when he drops his hands to guard there, hit him square on the bridge of the nose, or really anywhere in the face. It has to be as hard and fast as you possibly can. Don't lose your cool, no matter how many times you get hit. If you have to take a hit to score a hit on him, that works too.

No matter the outcome of the first fight, if he disrespects you, attack him. Believe me, once or twice standing your ground, he will lose face, and think twice about talking sh1t to you.

Now here's your number one problem. You don't really want to hurt him, but you know it's necessary. You must have the intent to do him harm, or you will be ineffective. It sounds obvious, but it's the biggest problem I've seen with teaching someone to fight. Tell yourself that causing him harm is the only way he will learn.

Find somebody to teach you to fight. It's a skill everyone should know. Whether it's a karate dojo, or your cousin the brawler. The better your are at violence, the less you will need to use it.
 

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I just noticed (observed, whatever) that the advice given (which I agree with) is very similar to advice given about prison -- that you don't take sh** from nobody and make it obvious that messing with you will have some consequences, even if you don't win every time.

In any case, don't take sh** from anybody. I don't think you're a dwarf compared to this guy, esp if you can smash him against the locker. Good hunting ;D
 

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hit him open-fisted (make a fist, rotate you hand up and hit with the bottom of the hand).....you'll make an impact, I promise. Just don't kill the guy though. If you're in a corner, kick his knee out with everything you got. Look the mfer straight in the eyes. If you can, try hitting him in the throat, it's a major pressure point.

Good luck, I know how you feel....
 

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You need to defend yourself. He doesn't tease you because he knows he can beat you up if you ever fought back, he teases you because you're an easy target that won't fight back. Even if he could beat the **** out of you. It's just easier for him to tease someone that won't defend themselves. Everytime he comes to tease you, you end up talking ****, pushing back, punching, whatever, he'll leave you alone.

I remember when I was back your age. Some guy used to tease me like that, punch me. And I would play punch back, just trying not to piss him off. Than one day, I threw a punch a little high, fist bounced off his shoulder and hit him in the face. Let's just say, he wasn't a problem after that.
 

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1. If he approaches you don't break eye contact with him ever, even if he pushes you keep your eyes locked. Don't ignore him when he walks by either, look right at him.....Face the fear

2. If you have to hit him try to do it at a time when there's a teacher or someone nearby to break it up if he goes too far, be smart

3. You may have to make a scene to prove to him that you are willing to go these, this takes a little balls it may be nessecery to show he can't publicly humiliate you.

Ghandi said a while back that wherever there is injustice it must be exposed and brought to the attention of people before it begins to be solved. I'm not advocating his non-violence stance because martyrdom throughout history has always been used in dealing with racial or religious issues. This is not a racial issue but it IS injustice, and you can't cower and hide from this guy by pretending it doesn't exist, IT DOES. It's happening everyday, this guy is touching you and he has no right, get pissed off about that. Be furious that he feels he can treat you worse than this household pet, you are a man not a dog. Listen to Rage Against the Machine before you go to school, get mentally prepared to bring this injustice to your attention, his attention, and the schools attention. Know that you are right and don't back down
 

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I'm not an advocate of violence but I've never had a bullying situation happen to me.

This is one of those times where the bucks stops now. You are at an advantage because you know what he is going to do ... next time he sees you he is going to push you... so prepare for that.
I'd just get a squirt container from the cafeteria purposely walk close to him so he'll make is typically pushy move... squirt the little punk with mustard and then just push him over... LOL

Then everyone who sees him will notice the situation and also if you get called into the principles office its similar punishment to a food fight...

Or just walk up behind him and squirt the hell out of him and push him on the ground.
 

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Dude, I'm 21 now but when I was 12 years old this exact same thing happened to me. This guy would punch me and I would retaliate and it would only seem to make him push me around more, then he'd go a couple of weeks just threatening me.

After afew months I had no self-esteem and I was petrified of him even thouhg he was a wuss.

I didn't do anything and had to wait until he got moved into different classes before this stopped.

End it now, next time he gives you ****, lay into him. Like the other guys said, it doesnt matter whether you get your arse kicked.
When you punch don't think too much about how hard the punch is, just clench your fist and hit him in the face by suprise as fast as possible but make sure you land the punch! If he ducks or avoids the punch this will sapp your energy. So take him by suprise and make 100% sure of the impact. If you catch him in the jaw off-guard he will be dazed, immediately smack him again and again until he's grounded.

If you end up getting into a grapple, chances are, if he's bigger than you, you will lose. Make sure you break that glass jaw.

Secondly, if he beats you up, be prepared to try again some other time. So do't lose self-esteem if you get your arsed kicked infront of everybody. Its more important in the long run that you get this wanker off your back.
 

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only one way to deal with this. as a man. either deal with this, or it will haunt you. You can either fight him, or just stand up to him, and not back down. either way, don't F'n kill the guy, someone said aim for the throat. Jesus, that could end you in jail, and then you'll really be fighting for your life. aim for the side of the neck, the temple above the side of his eyes, or wait until he's close, and just gut punch him, right below the rib cage. no matter how hard he is, you catch him in the stomach like that he'll think twice before harassing you again.
I'd really suggest studying up on pressure points of the body, theres TONS of em, and any one will bring anybody to their knees, and you'll look totally incharge to any of the chicks watching, since you brought down a bully without even breaking a sweat. did you know that if you simply grab and squeeze between the thumb and palm with your fingers you could hit the main artery and nerve in the hand, causing immense pain? HeL L any place where theres a joint in the human body theres a pressure point. Good luck!
 

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dont fight him unless your 99% sure you can kick his @ss!!

I made the mistake of taking on the toughest kid in school because I under-estimated him and I was an "inexperienced fighter" he almost beat me unconcietious, the only thing that stopped him was the school principle that pulled him off, my friends were too afraid to help me.

I was humiliated for the rest of my school years, dont do it unless you want to take the risk.

getting beatin in front of all your peers carries a lot of "stigma"
 

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If u do it the way i told u,u will win for sure!Act like u are scared then sucker punch him in the jaw with all ur power!!!!If this dosent drop him,continue to hit untill he no longer cant stand!Dont be afraid to stomp his hands,ankels and head while he is down;)
 

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His kind only understands force

One time when I was about 13 or so, some idiot -- who was not big, and not even particularly strong -- was punching me on the back when he was sitting behind me in class. Never being one to rat anybody to the teacher, I said nothing, but as we were walking out of the class the class I waited for him to get ahead of me, and slammed him in the kidney like he never could have imagined. He never got anywhere near me again. The dumb ass probably was jealous of my good grades, or just figured me for an "easy mark": a "good boy," who would not fight back, being an "A" student. Wrong!

But in my case there was a "level playing field." The idiot was no threat to me. Your situation may not be the same. It's clear you don't perceive it to be, whatever the case.

You may need to find ways of negating his advantage ;).

One of my friends who had been bullied once "snapped," and went after his attackers with a hammer. They never did anything to him again.

You might consider something like that, which lets them know in no uncertain terms there are ways of overcoming whatever size and/or strength advantage he has.

Whatever you do, keep that in mind. He's not playing on a "level playing field," so you have no obligation to either. Even if you have to injure him severely with a weapon to make your point, you have to make him pay for this sh1t, or at very least put the fear in him big time (remember, a bully is just a coward with size and physical strength), or it will go on indefinitely.

As an alternative, you might consider "dirty fighting," such as gouging his face your set of keys -- and let him know you won't be so kind if it happens again. Just pretend to cower, and get him when he least expects it.

Or -- without anybody else finding out about it -- recruit some genuinely cool people who hate bullies to catch this azzhole in the act, intervene by beating his ass to a pulp, and make it clear if they hear of him pciking on any smaller guy they'll do double to him. Let them return the gift. But it would have to look like they "just caught him in the act," so you don't get the reputation of being someone who won't fight his own battles. But even so, that still would be better than what's going on now.

Best of luck. Make the scummy bastard pay for it, or at least sh1t his pants!
 

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Thank you guys for this advice. Some guys are messing with me in my career school. I'm 5'4 so they think I'm a easy target. I'm gonna start giving eye contact to these guys and even stand up to them. L'll start working out at my house for now until I get a new gym pass. L'll ask my friend for some advice. Like sun tzu said " face your enemy with confince, failure to do this will make him more boldness". Some guy who used to work at the same job with me was making fun of me. Started making fun of him. 1 time I walked right up to him while he was trying to cool and dissed him. Alot of my life I though I was too weak and had little fighting experince. But I got some friends who can show me some moves. Also I got a nice big gold ring with a sapphire in it. When I hit somebody they are gonna be sorry they messed with me. :eek:
 

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The one kid I ever got in a fistfight with in high school ended up being gay. Maybe he wanted to fight because he had a crush on me. I did not suspect him as gay - we played football together - but then again he was the punter...
 
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