"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How women manipulate men

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This is best seen when you have caught a women red handed. Or during big arguments where it’s clear that she’s in the wrong but keeps on denying it. But you can also see it when they need some guy to play the white knight or when they need someone to help them out.

In this post the it’s more about manipulation during a big fights or argument.

So the first thing to do when confronting women and not get manipulated is to
Keep your distance as much as possible.

If possible do it over the Phone or via Text when you are not living together.

Why? Because women are better at manipulating you when you are near them. Their innocent and helpless body language, tears, touch, etc all these things will be used to soften you up and ultimately make you fall for their manipulation tactics.

Male nature is to protect women and children and women make use of this when they are in trouble. Ever notice during big arguments a woman will tell you she wants to talk to you in person, they need to see you, They don't want to discuss over text or phone etc. This is because you're frame is stronger and you are thinking more logically using these methods of communication. They want talk in person so they can take advantage of your natural instinct to help the weak and helpless. (Consciously or unconsciously)

Another point to watch out for is their tendency to avoid the specific incident you are confronting them about. They will use words like "every time ", "everything I do", "Always", " Never" etc
They will defer your attention using phrases like. "You know me I would never do that" , " I have always taken care of you", "You always accusing me", "you never listen" , "you don't love me" etc

These are all tactics to let you feel like you are the bully and she's an innocent victim who never did anything wrong. focus on what they did,not their words.

So to summarize
- Keep your distance and keep it short! the longer you talk the weaker your frame becomes
- Always keep your focus on the issue at hand.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Good post. I totally agree. When my ex and I used to fight I would always deflect the argument to text or private FB chat. Then catch her on contradictory statements, screen shot both of them, send them to her and say"Just read what you wrote in both. THIS is why we fight. Which one was a lie? the first or the second (or the third) lol".


One could also post "How women manipulate men" like you did OP, and then in the message just say this:

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I belvie you should be on person to do this kind of things, reading her body language will help more then reading a carefully texted words, everyone in a fight will try to disarm you in any way they can, be it by using a threath of force, making it a comical fall back, or jsut play victim,

but that is where you need to overcome, think it like a sh!t test, on how you can mantain your frame without failing for her tears, also remember if you are willing to walk away it shouldn't matter if you fight over text or in person, if things are too annoying its time to end it
 

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Alvalfe, Women have learned to use their body language and personal manipulations skills from the moment they were born.

They get instant attention when they cry.
They are not spanked very often if not ever.
When they play with dolls and act out the role of mommy
At school they quickly learn how to compete with other girls. ( little girls are fcking mean to each other LoL )
and after that they learn how to get boys to do stuff for them.

There is no doubt.
Women are one step ahead when it comes to these skills.
They are naturals and most men are not.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Starwolf said:
Alvalfe, Women have learned to use their body language and personal manipulations skills from the moment they were born.

They get instant attention when they cry.
They are not spanked very often if not ever.
When they play with dolls and act out the role of mommy
At school they quickly learn how to compete with other girls. ( little girls are fcking mean to each other LoL )
and after that they learn how to get boys to do stuff for them.

There is no doubt.
Women are one step ahead when it comes to these skills.
They are naturals and most men are not.
and evading any contact with woman will help on what? this kind of thing is lack of experience you are telling us, and evanding contact trying to read her body msg trusting your gut feeling helps a lot more.

when you get enough experience you will see how fake a woman tears is, you will just see and notice how she will act, but you need to put your face out there, not hide behind facebook or celphones, let the females do that
 

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Regarding face to face: people cannot effectively manipulate you when you truly don't give a fudge about them (on the inside), because whether they lie or try to deceive you, you're automatically in the frame of doing what's in your best interest, so guilt and flipping things around won't work on you, and you easily weed out those who won't give you what you want on your terms quickly.

Also,calling them out on it midway and sticking to your guns works (they'll try to deny deny deny).
 
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