"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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How widespread is game?

starplayer

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This is something I've been thinking about ever since I figured all this stuff out back in 08.

But how many guys know about game?

I remember when I started girls would respond quickly to me and seemed surprised. Some said they'd never met a guy who was so confident and forward, so I guessed it must be quite rare.

I've noticed an increase in guys talking about it both online and IRL since I started. I hear guys talking about being alpha and stuff.

What if game becomes mainstream?

Won't this effectively make it useless because every AFC is doing the a$$hole thing instead of being a nice guy, with everyone trying to "out-alpha" each other.

But if girls are aware of everyone running game will it even work anymore?

Maybe it's not a big deal but it's been bugging me recently.

I know the nice guy/a$$hole thing has been public since the internet began, and forums like this have been round for 10+ years now. It's even been talked about in the media with the Pick up Artist. So I don't know what to think.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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COD

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where U been. VH1-had TWO SEASONS of the PICKUP ARTIST, then there was KEYS TO THE VIP-another pickup game show, TUCKER MAX movie about his life in college, Neil Strauss was spose to have a movie out called THE GAME, coutless youtube videos on pickup.

ITS MAINSTREAM and reached global status around 2009-2010.

Most people are aware of game but FEW ACTUALLY PRACTICE SKILLFULL game.

Its a novelty like any other fad.........peaked, now starting to wear off. Game has changed, women have changed, the rules have also changed.

You can see it in dating sites, quality of PickUP prgrams/DVDS is impressive compared to a few years ago.

Like Bruce Lee professed-the best game is to not need ANY game at all.
 

Huffman

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Shouldn't matter, there are and always have been lots of people who never heard of "pickup tactics" and are just good with girls naturally.

It's not that these "tactics" give you a big advantage over those guys, in fact I think most of us here want to become more like them ;)
 

PapiChulo

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Some men are *****-whipped to the point that Pua material can no longer help those guys, whether they are dumb, lazy, scared, etc. You can tell which ones read the material yet cant apply it or dont understand it completely, they are doomed. The guys that are successful realize that it's about the natural game and not just about random Pua technics of Internet. I would say that 1 in 3 has read at least some material, but how many graduate to need no game at all? 1 in 10 and those who are natural.
 

Zarky

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I would love for every man to be excellent at "game." It would drastically lower the price that men have to pay for sex. Imagine if every man in the western world made a pact that they wouldn't give a girl a second date if she didn't put out on the first... and men actually followed through with that. We'd all be getting laid on the first date.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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