How we can improve the game/pickup community.

[RickTheToad]

One thing I will add is that while this is productive, we should not give much respect to men who write field reports but still have issues. I say this because the pickup group I used to be a part of recently had a member that would "take action" every day, do approaches, write field reports, fail, blame outside circumstances (the city and its culture), and then eventually come up with black pilled theories. One of those theories was that women in a given city (a really big city btw) just don't like "masculine men" and he is losing out to feminine pretty boys.

It is a step above the guys who just post theories all day but we need to judge guys that get outcomes and have the receipts to back it up. I'd love to post receipts myself but am limited due to the fact that this forum is public and we have already had @RickTheToad get into trouble for doing something similar. I think a private forum for members where we can share more would be phenomenal.

Yea, it was a shame. Really wanted to f*ck that girl too. Damn Google image search

 

[corsica]

The problem with this forum is the same problem with any internet forum - you don't know who you're getting your advice from. I think it also comes down to the adage that "those who can, do, those who can't, teach". Basically that if a guy is successful enough to get with a lot of women, he probably isn't spending a whole lot of time here unless it's to skim the recent posts and maybe offer some input...


I don't think there would be a reasonable way to "verify" a guy's success, at least not in a legal way that respects the women or the privacy of the guy posting. And if there were, it would probably be too tedious to bother with. Unfortunately, for those reasons, it'll probably remain as is.

Everything should be taken with a grain of salt. And even if it is from a reputable source, some "routines" you know it won't work with you or you feel like not trying. For the experienced, you might hear something and think "oh, I might add that to my routine".

I also take into account the Black Pill (is the one about appearance?). If someone does a field report saying he can pick up girls rated 8 (or above), I imagine he might be also above-average. But at the same time I try to figure if due to the report's location, is possible to pick girls above your own SMV.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The problem with this forum is the same problem with any internet forum - you don't know who you're getting your advice from. I think it also comes down to the adage that "those who can, do, those who can't, teach". Basically that if a guy is successful enough to get with a lot of women, he probably isn't spending a whole lot of time here unless it's to skim the recent posts and maybe offer some input.

The problem with this even if everyone on here had solid advice:

1). You are going only want to hear the advice that you want to hear
2). Dating is constantly evolving, OLD is a now a major platform and you have guys on here that refuse to partake in it
3). You need a constant rotation of successful men because men retire from messing around with a lot of women more quickly than you think.