"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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How u do actually seduce/don juan a Catwoman ?

PrinceWannabe

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Hi all,

Today I am going throw into discussion, someone I know who is capable of what I consider, an ultimate seduction. A friend of one of my GF's is a (Japanese) lesbian sadist. Her (the "Catwoman") sport, is to meet normal girls, get them to fall completely in love with her, and make them lesbians (or Bi's) so that she can shag them or do whatever else she wants to do to them. I consider this to be the ultimate seduction, as not only does she have to catch the chick, she has to make them lez too.

I am going to talk about her system here, as I think there are lots of applications that guys can use to get chicks with this as well. And since the system was designed by a chick (and a chick knows a chick's thinking better than a guy does probably), it does exploit a lot of things about chick logic even I have never thought of..

Allright, here we go..

The Catwoman is a 24 yr old very bright (though not so pretty) young lady. She is a psych. Major, and seems to understand psychology as well as chick logic thoroughly. My GF even admits that she feels very comfortable around her, even though she's never lez'd with her (she says ;-) ). Catwoman has a strong character, is a player and usually has several chicks on the go at once.. Her GF's are often very beautiful BTW..

So, what is Catwoman's system? Well, she plays a lot on the worries, and anxieties of chicks (and since she is a chick too, she knows what all these are), then applies stealth kino (see below for details), so integrates pleasurable feelings with intellectual security, and at that point can get an attachment with the chick. Then, grow the kino bit by bit, and she's got a friend to lez with..

Now, some things about her system, before I go into the details. First of all, she can't do this at SS speeds, mainly because of the lez' barrier (it is hard to get a chick to fall in love with a chick in 1 week if she was never interested (overtly) in chicks to start with). She says it takes about 1 month to 3 months (depending on the chick).

So first she meets the chick. She doesn't say she is a lesbian, or her intentions with the chick. There is no sex talk at all, whatsoever.. At that point, she finds out all about them, and especially what their insecurities are (ie. Job, do they think they are pretty, worthwhile, smart, legs too fat, too thin..etc..etc, whatever). Cute girls always have tons of insecurities, so you just have to find out what they are. She approaches this, as she were an elder, or mother to the girls. At that point, she will often talk to them, and tell them she is worried/was worried about (whatever..job..etc), since last time they talked, which apparently grows their attachment. Also, she will tell them they are cute, not in a guy way, but as a confidence builder way (ie. You are cute, you are good enough.etc..etc), and how she will take care of them, protect them. This will go on for a while, playing on the insecurities of the chick.

Then, the stealth Kino will start. Her gimmick is to start kidding with the chick that she is a cat or kitten (chicks just totally love cats). The first few times, she'll just talk how she is cute like a cat (note, that by comparing to a cat, there is nothing sexual in the talk.it is cute in a chick's way, like pretty flowers, or whatever, so the chick doesn't get scared she's gonna get lez'd by the catwoman).

Later, little bits of kino will start, pet her on the head, chin, and later take her hands or arms while talking about how she is cute like a cat, and how she is so cuddly, and then she'll hug her (chicks also love hugs), again, nothing sexual, no implication, but it is getting the chick to enjoy those nice feelings, and grow more attached as Catwoman plays the insecurities and acts as a mom and protector to the chick.

My GF says that this feels very comfortable, and is not threatening whatsoever. My GF doesn't like other chicks to touch her, but with Catwoman, its okay, she isn't scared (my suspicion, is that Catwoman is also using NLP and anchors, since she is a chick, and a Psych. Major, so I am sure she is good at this too, which also dispelled the fear).

Then, at some point, Catwoman will play the fears of the chick, and get her over to `console her' and protect her and make her feel at ease (job, too fat, too skinny, not pretty, whatever). And they will talk, and it will get late, and she'll offer that she can spend the night, so she doesn't have to go back home alone scared. Then the cat games will start, and the kino, and the chick will feel at ease.no sexual passes at this stage yet though.

At this point, is usually, when the chick will tell Catwoman she feels really good around her, or loves her somehow or something like that. Then, and only then, Catwoman will make her move, again, gently, and with the cute cat thing, and get more physical, kiss her, or touch her body, or whatever Lez's do.

Basically, Catwoman can get in because she acts as this woman's protector, and confident, and the person who `truly' worries/cares for understands that girl.

Apparently this system works most of the time she says.

I think its a good system, especially the cat/kino thing, and playing the "I was so worried about you/wondering how you are doing" cards with the chick's anxieties.Truly classic.


To my fellow Don Juans, how do u actually don juan this kinda of bisexual girl who apply such techiques on a guy's insecurities ? (like making u feel comfortable in her presence so u will like her) How can u handle a girl who use her sexuality to seduce u and never gives u ? (it just a test on her side to see if u r actually horny or too desperate, she can get sex easily if she wants =P) In the first place, i have seen such a girl and there are lots handsome hunks chasing after, even girls wants her. i manage to keep her interest high up by studying the Don Juan bible n apply it on her. But still, she claim she only like girls which is utter bull**** since she keep seducing me with compliments n nice words.. still i not am going to let her win by saying my feelings. showing will do. So how will u deal wif such a catwoman ?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Fenderules

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lol she is a male don juan in a females body! thats cool.



again she had a very important key..






CONFIDENCE......she set out what she wanted and acted on it


i dunno how to handle it. she might just be a **** tease
 

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Man, this one's a tough nut to crack...however...this story's just so concrete(did I say good too?), that I have got ot add it in my Donjuan Games book(I'm makin one:) )under the category "have to try":D
 

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I think Ross Jeffries encountered something like this too(check out his tapes, I think it's there), I think he used a little C+F to get where he wanted...:p
 

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Homosexuality is abomination upon God's eyes.This will lead to the end of days.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PrinceWannabe

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Nah.. she is bisexual... she didn't really like girls, is just that some things guys can never offer her. She can be attracted to the king of Don Juans.. who can it be ? :D
 

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This sounds an awful lot like a repost from the old ASF, I remember reading this exact description in an archive somewhere on fastseduction.com.
 

MackJr

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I wouldn't try to seduce a woman this smart. She's too deep into it.

At her level, you have to either mutually & honestly agree to have a relationship at a certain level (FB, GF/BF, platonic) and just do it that way because any other approach would lead to you getting manipulated big time.
 
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