How too much canned material affected my game

[Guitar_Whizz]

Hello fellow Dons....

I used to post here a lot between 2002 and 2005, but after reading "The Game" in late 2005 I got heavily into using canned material/routines etc. I spent most of 2006 using canned opinion openers and canned stories, canned responses etc. I thought my game was awesome, but there were negative side effects. I have now returned to natural game and am back on sosuave.com again.

The problem with using canned material is that it becomes a crutch and hides your 'real' personailty. You literally become some sort of 'generic' PUA, almost like a 'PUA clone'. It's death to your individuality and your creativity.

The other big problem with canned game is incongruence. You give off a really 'insincere' vibe, which I think girls subtely pick up on, and it hurts your results.

It's also deadly boring saying the same routines over and over again.

So guys, don't learn all these routines from Mystery, Tyler, Style, etc....as much I like those guys....instead, work on your inner confidence, work on projecting the right vibe to girls, and work on being natural and having as much fun as possible in any particular interaction you have with a girl. This hands down beats any 'canned game'.

Of course you can still have some pre-rehearsed openers for the main situations you want to meet girls in. Nothing wrong with that, as it gives you a confidence in that you'll not be stuck for something to open with. And you can have some prepared responses to **** tests and lines that will help you transition from one stage of a seduction to the next. But just don't fall into the trap of learning by rote some 'script' that was written by another PUA.

 

[Adrian]

I never did like canned material but I am interested in reading "The Game". How was your success though with that stuff?

 

[Guitar_Whizz]

I never did like canned material but I am interested in reading "The Game". How was your success though with that stuff?

Pretty good - at one point during 2006 I had 8 girls on the go. It was a bit ridiculous, and fortunately I narrowed it down to 3.

However, I never did feel 'right' when doing canned routines. I'd use things like the David Bowie opener or the 'Dumped by text' routine. I wasn't listening to my intuition - it was screaming at me to be true to myself and use a more congruent method to meet girls. I almost lost my identity because I was so obsessed with moulding myself into some sort of 'generic PUA', but thankfully I came to my senses!

So I guess canned sort of works, but it's no more succesful than natural game, and I think in the long run natural game will yield far better results as it'll be YOU the girl is attracted to, not some 'fake persona'.

I think that you need to go to the root of your problems and work from there. Learning canned game is a bit like trying to sort your problems out from 'branch level' - it'll work for a while, but because the roots are not strong, it'll die out.

I also think that the 'fake persona' and 'fake routines' that used in canned game are a crutch many so-called 'PUAs' hide behind when they haven't worked on their real personality and charisma. Seriously - work on yourself, bring out your BEST self, let your fun, buddly side out, and that is what you need - not fake material.

 

[penkitten]

bump

 

[Adrian]

Thanks man

 

[Obsidian]

I've gotten to the point where I just really despise the idea of trying overly hard to attract a lady. I'm the f*cking prize, dammit. I'll be a man and approach if the situation calls for it, but let her take me as I am.

I can barely even stand to do the fake alpha stuff anymore. Faking disinterest, obtaining social proof, all that seems like nonsense. I'm a decent guy at heart, and I'm not going to stop being nice just to try to attract a bunch of hors. If they don't like me, they're welcome to go find some assh0le to date. The only thing I won't do is let myself get used or taken advantage of. I also try to keep compliments to a minimum. But other than that, I try just to be sincere.