"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to transition?

Gunner26

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Right it's been a bit of a while since I posted on here boys. Things are going swimmingly, back at uni now and have been gonig out roughly twice a week. Averaging a make-out once a week so pretty much every other night, which is the best form of my life.

Now, the only problem is, while getting the make-out is pretty standard now, I have no fear when it comes to dancing with a girl on the dancefloor and making a move; I can't seem to transition it to getting back to a girls place. The one time I did last week, she ended up chundering down the side of the bed before any real progress had been made and it ended any chance of me loosing my V pretty much straight away. She then tried to have after chunder cuddles with me, but I said no, got dressed and walked home.

On another note, I never seem to get with people I know, the girl last week is the first person I've ever made out with who I actually knew, all the others have been complete randoms. Any thought's as to why this may be?

But yeah, main question is how to transition from the make-out at the club to sexy time at her place?

Cheers in advance boys
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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keep the makeout light in the club, leave her wanting more. Lead her outside to smoke/air/anyexcuse....

Then... oh wait theres a half hour queue to get back in... Wanna grab a drink at mine while we wait for this shi... to die down. Yeah its only 2 minutes by taxi.. c'mon.

then she's at yours and.... the rest is history.

Plus she doesn't feel like a slut, since you have a 'valid' reason to lead her wherever. Baby steps... lead her all the way, bull**** all the way through, she changes her mind halfway? oh well Next! :)
 

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I see what you mean purefilth. I'll give it a go next time. Only problem with this is that all the bars/clubs around me are on the same street, it's kind of like a strip, if you can't get back into one place you just go to a different one 5/10 metres away.

I like the part about offering to go back to mine/hers for drinks though, it sounds much better than simply asking if they want to get out of the place, I mean it worked with one girl, but it felt relly forced and I felt like I was being way to forward.
 

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dominate. lead. I have the same - clubs are all in the town centre here - you just gotta push the boundaries you percieve to be there. Its just the AFC in you saying 'this is wrong' ignore that sh1t, it stops you getting ahead

until you get a definite NO then anything is game :up:
 

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use some push pull, make out with her then push her away and say thats all you get. keep escalating, and pushing her away. dont wait till the end of the night, but on a high note just say, dont ask, tell, "lets get out of here." grab her by the hand and start walking to the door. its really that easy.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ok thanks boys, was such obvious advice as well really, shame I didn't think of it myself.

But yeah I'll give what you guys said a go, I've never really done push/pull with a girl after I've started making out with her littletroll, but I can see what you mean by it, and it sounds like pretty good advice so I'll try it.

And purefilth, once again you have hit it on the head, I think it is the AFC in me being a bit of a wuss and not wanting to get rejected or feeling uncomfortable, I'll work on that too.
 
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