"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How to start conversations with non spontanious chicks

mka

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Hey Guys,

This is what I have been strucling all the time for...
And could not find an answer for it...
It is essential for my game....

Sometimes when I open a girl....
I just don't know where to talk about... or where to follow up with
And lead the conversation going to somewhere...
This does not happen with every girl..

This happens the most with non spontanious girls..
But you can also call it the girls who does not know
where to talk about or what to say...

Where do you guys talk about? When you open a girl..
and do you already know what you are going to talk about?
So you will have a conversation.. that is going somewhere...
So, How do you guys start convo after opening...?

I only have succes with girls who are spontanious...
and are keeping the conversation going themselves...
Not the ones that are does not know what to say...
I am not good at keeping conversations...
And asking qeustions aren't always the best way.....
Because you will ask to much personal questions in the beginning.
Which will be showed as...
There is somebody trying to seduce me....

I pickup girls from time to time...
But I am still strucling all the time about this conversational skill...
that I sometimes just don't know what to talk about...
and how to keep the conversation going... and to somewhere...

So this happens sometimes....
I open girl...... She responses..... then I talk some more..
or I do not.... and then the conversation stops....

Maybe I just need some follow up after the opener.
Which will start an interesting conversation....

I would be so happy when this will be fixed in my game..
I see it as a huge bug... which must be repared....

So the questions I will ask you are......

1. Where to follow up with after you opent her?
What would be a great follow up after you have opent her...
2. How do you guys keep conversations?
3. Where do you lead the conversation into?
4. What to do about non spontanious chicks and how to make them spontanious,
so they begin to make an effort and start talking with you...
5. Where do you guys talk about after your opener?
6. Do you guys use routines to start conversations?

Greatings Master knight adventurer..
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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fault in txt...
So the questions I will ask 'TO' you are......

Greatings Master knight adventurer...
 

HeartlessBtch

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Originally posted by mka


So the questions I will ask you are......

1. Where to follow up with after you opent her?
What would be a great follow up after you have opent her...
2. How do you guys keep conversations?
3. Where do you lead the conversation into?
4. What to do about non spontanious chicks and how to make them spontanious,
so they begin to make an effort and start talking with you...
5. Where do you guys talk about after your opener?
6. Do you guys use routines to start conversations?

Greatings Master knight adventurer..

Ok I'm a chick so I'm going to tell you what we like to hear... It's all about US US US!!!! ME! ME! ME! Girls don't tend to care about you, we don't give a crap what you do so don't start making up lies such as "Yeah I'm in the music industry and make over the 6 digits a year, I know P Didy and J-Z" Oh please shut up! In order for you to strike a conversaton with a girl you HAVE to ask questions about her, LISTEN! OBSERVE! look at what she's wearing, complemet her, what perfume does she wear "oh you smell good, ask her about her job, her school, her major, her family, what brings her to that place and if she is interested she'll say "how about you?" after she's done conversating about herself...BUT keep in mind if you see she does'nt ask questions about you and does not show interest (i.e gives you the cxold shoulder) don't instigate, move on its time for the NEXT!
 

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Yes true,

This does only count for direct game...
Not for indirect game....
My questions where based on indirect game...
Which I want to also use in my game..

Structure of direct game= Showing interest
Structure of indirect game= Telegraphing disinterest
Because it will show of as there is somebody trying to seduce me

Example --> Direct game:

Me: Hi, What's your name?
She: Wendy :p
She: What's yours
She: Where do you live
She: ETC

Because I did Direct game.... we can go in rapport just like that...

I already use this game of asking personal questions...
But the problem is........ You can only ask personal questions if you have showed interest in the beginning of the opener..
Which is called direct game....
This is not indirect game.. which you have to hide interest
Which is call telegraphing disinterest.. or active disinterest..

The reason why I posted this... is because...
when I use indirect game.. It just goes a lot different..
and when I ask personal questions to soon.. it will **** up the sarge.. Look at this.....

Example --> indirect game:

This will happen.....

When conversation has been started
Me: So, What is your name? or what do you do?
She: Why do you ask? or Wendy.. And then the convo stops...

Because you have to initiate attraction in the beginning...
With direct game, you do so...

That is the problem with indirect game..
You cannot ask personal questions in the beginning about her...
So I hope you meant for direct game.. and not for indirect game...

So What I Wrote I Meant For Indirect Game... Not Direct Game..
And that is about telegraphing active disinterest
so you are unable to ask personal questions about her..

Greatings Master knight adventurer..
 
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