Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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How to show some type of INTERSET in a HB without beign AFC?

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This has me puzzeled....

I'm reading DYD for the third time atr the moment....

I spent all lastnight listening to David DeAngelo MP3's.

And I still can not figure out a great way of actually showing soem interest in a HB without beign AFC and tellign you, "hey i really like you!"

We aren't suppose to bring the topic up...really...

If they ask we are far better to not give a direct answer unless it's "NO!"

How the hell are you suppose to do this?

If the girl doesn't think we are interested at all...then we are in trouble also...I knwo we want to make them work harder for out attention but hell, is it just me or when I'm talking to a girl I've seen a coule of times...and she doesn't seem interested in me too much....it really turns me off them.

help me out here bro's.

And don't tell me to read the bible...dont that.
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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A. ask her out!

B. Kiss her

C. Kino/get physical

D. Bang her!

If she can't tell by D, get rid of her--she's nuts :D
 

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IF you do this.... exactly like what you just said, from my experience....the girl just thinks you want sex and is being used.
 

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So, you're telling me that you've read (at least a portion of) the DJ Bible, AND listened to DD's DYD, AND you still haven't got an idea of how to let a woman know that you are interested without telling her?

I saw a movie just last night that showed this in action... Coyote Ugly.

Here, I'll give you a general guideline :

By the time that you have said 'Hi' the woman ALREADY knows that you are interested in her.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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SPIS: THanks bro, but i'm talkign about once you've slept with them a few times.

I've here to learn...I dont know everything...thats why i asked...not everything you read, you get....
 

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OOOOHHHH!!!! After you've slept with a woman a few times, she knows you're interested by virtue of the fact that you keep talking to her.

I know this might blow your mind in it's simplicity, but that is the case.

Don't worry about it, you'll get it eventually. Just keep at it, trust me I've been in your situation before. It took me boatloads of effort to crack some of my negative habits, I still have a few bad habits that hold me back with women, but the before and after shot is of two completely different people.

By the sound of things you want a more concrete answer...

Let's do a little role reversal here : You are an attractive woman. You get HIT ON CONSTANTLY by guys trying solely to get in your pants. The only reason that you accept a guy's asking for your number is because he did something that stuck out as interesting in your mind that you'll give him a chance.

That's what I mean, that by virtue of you talking to her, kissing her, touching her, sexing her, you are demonstrating that you like her. Once she tells you her feelings, then by all means reciprocate, but really, just assume that the woman knows you want her... and also assume that she wants you, untill you can read body language enough to tell the difference.
 

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In other words David DeAngelo's stuff hasnt sunk in ONE BIT?

He addresses this in DYD Seminar (Advanced Dating Techniques). You DON'T tell her, you keep her guessing. As long as she wants to be around you you're good.
 

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Thanks SPIS and Joe Dirt...thats what I was after..and yes the answer was staring me in the face but I've read and listenign to that much stuff these past coupel of days things are a little fuzzy...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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