"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How to show a girl you care while not looking like you want approval?

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I don't have any problems attracting girls anymore. My problem is keeping them.

One of the biggest flaws I have is showing that I care without looking too needy. I'm a really independent guy, or at least I feel I am. A lot of my girl friends at school think I'm pretty detached when it comes to emotions in a relationship. Most of my relationships have ended as of late because the girl feels I am just too uninterested in her.

Anyone have any advice? What would be the DJ way to show emotions?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Are you just looking for casual dating/FBs...or are you looking for a girlfriend?
 

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Well, my girlfriend and I recently broke up after a rather massive argument. She told me she just doubts the relationship and doubts that I care.

So I guess I'm looking for advice for future girlfriends and not just casual dating.
 

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apocalypse later said:
Well, my girlfriend and I recently broke up after a rather massive argument. She told me she just doubts the relationship and doubts that I care.

So I guess I'm looking for advice for future girlfriends and not just casual dating.
I'm assuming you want the best girl you can get...right? So my suggestion would be to initially date multiple women simultaneously...get a good rotation going. I find w/ myself 3-4 is good...then when one of em bores me/or I bore her, I'll gradually phase her out and bring in someone else.

This way you go thru lotsa women and can evaluate ones that are true keepers...It helps to build your confidence, improve your game, and its fun, atleast in my books!

I'm just telling you stuff that worked for me...

Just my 2 cents
 

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Yea, I've been doing that rotation dating. It's just that I kind of "comitted" to one and was in a LTR-esque relationship for about 2 months.

I guess I'm looking more for future advice of how not to look like an unemotional, cynical piece of crap. I want to be confident and independent, but I don't want to be a jerk and make the girl think I don't care about her.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Kindness is not a weakness, make sure future gfs understand this.
 

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I am in an LTR right now, and I am, wondering the same thing myself. So its a good topic for me, and a good chance to learn something too :)

I'm finding the hardest thing is how to keep a girl, not how to get one.

not knowing whether to drop the emotionally distant, C+F stuff? welcome to the club hehe

1) to be honest, I think all out C+F is really only for during the courtship phase. If she becomes ur gf or is quite obviously into you, dont do it that much. you want to be real, that is important, and thats what will make the LTR last. C+F won't.

You wont be able to come up with a witty/ C+F response everytime. You might be really strong at the beginning (like I was), but it'll taper off eventually.

Think of C+F like a bright red sign you're carrying. All C+F is for is to get her to notice you, to distinguish you from the tons of other guys out there. Once it becomes obvious shes your gf and totally into you, you dont need that bright red sign anymore. At that point, you want her to gradually know the real you. The kind, trusting, sincere you. The you who cheers her up in her darkest moment. The you who will stand by her side against all odds.

Once C+F has served its purpose, its not the time for "I have women chasing after me so I dont need you" crap. Be assertive, be confident, but love her with all your heart (if that is what you truly desire). you play too many C+F games, or you become to uncaring, and she'll actually think you might have another wife you havent told her about, or worse.


apocalypse later said:
I guess I'm looking more for future advice of how not to look like an unemotional, cynical piece of crap. I want to be confident and independent, but I don't want to be a jerk and make the girl think I don't care about her.
give her surprises from time to time. there are tons of ways to say "I love you" without having to be there. pick her up on a rainy nite. buy a rose. leave a voice mail. things that show you care. you can also throw in a little C+F from time to time, but make sure she knows ur only joking.
 

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BUMP. I have the same problem myself. My GF told me that she didn't feel I really put much effort in this relationship.
 

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Fela Kuti said:
BUMP. I have the same problem myself. My GF told me that she doesn't feel I really put much effort in this relationship.
You shouldn't HAVE to put an incredible amount of effort into your relationship. Is she not happy with who you are? Are you happy with who you are?

Is she trying to change you into someone you don't want to be?
 

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apocalypse later said:
One of the biggest flaws I have is showing that I care without looking too needy. I'm a really independent guy, or at least I feel I am. A lot of my girl friends at school think I'm pretty detached when it comes to emotions in a relationship. Most of my relationships have ended as of late because the girl feels I am just too uninterested in her.
IMHO you have intimacy problems dude. You hate it when girls get close to you so you sabotage the relationship before they can.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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