"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to show a girl you care while not looking like you want approval?

apocalypse later

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I don't have any problems attracting girls anymore. My problem is keeping them.

One of the biggest flaws I have is showing that I care without looking too needy. I'm a really independent guy, or at least I feel I am. A lot of my girl friends at school think I'm pretty detached when it comes to emotions in a relationship. Most of my relationships have ended as of late because the girl feels I am just too uninterested in her.

Anyone have any advice? What would be the DJ way to show emotions?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Are you just looking for casual dating/FBs...or are you looking for a girlfriend?
 

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Well, my girlfriend and I recently broke up after a rather massive argument. She told me she just doubts the relationship and doubts that I care.

So I guess I'm looking for advice for future girlfriends and not just casual dating.
 

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apocalypse later said:
Well, my girlfriend and I recently broke up after a rather massive argument. She told me she just doubts the relationship and doubts that I care.

So I guess I'm looking for advice for future girlfriends and not just casual dating.
I'm assuming you want the best girl you can get...right? So my suggestion would be to initially date multiple women simultaneously...get a good rotation going. I find w/ myself 3-4 is good...then when one of em bores me/or I bore her, I'll gradually phase her out and bring in someone else.

This way you go thru lotsa women and can evaluate ones that are true keepers...It helps to build your confidence, improve your game, and its fun, atleast in my books!

I'm just telling you stuff that worked for me...

Just my 2 cents
 

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Yea, I've been doing that rotation dating. It's just that I kind of "comitted" to one and was in a LTR-esque relationship for about 2 months.

I guess I'm looking more for future advice of how not to look like an unemotional, cynical piece of crap. I want to be confident and independent, but I don't want to be a jerk and make the girl think I don't care about her.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Kindness is not a weakness, make sure future gfs understand this.
 

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I am in an LTR right now, and I am, wondering the same thing myself. So its a good topic for me, and a good chance to learn something too :)

I'm finding the hardest thing is how to keep a girl, not how to get one.

not knowing whether to drop the emotionally distant, C+F stuff? welcome to the club hehe

1) to be honest, I think all out C+F is really only for during the courtship phase. If she becomes ur gf or is quite obviously into you, dont do it that much. you want to be real, that is important, and thats what will make the LTR last. C+F won't.

You wont be able to come up with a witty/ C+F response everytime. You might be really strong at the beginning (like I was), but it'll taper off eventually.

Think of C+F like a bright red sign you're carrying. All C+F is for is to get her to notice you, to distinguish you from the tons of other guys out there. Once it becomes obvious shes your gf and totally into you, you dont need that bright red sign anymore. At that point, you want her to gradually know the real you. The kind, trusting, sincere you. The you who cheers her up in her darkest moment. The you who will stand by her side against all odds.

Once C+F has served its purpose, its not the time for "I have women chasing after me so I dont need you" crap. Be assertive, be confident, but love her with all your heart (if that is what you truly desire). you play too many C+F games, or you become to uncaring, and she'll actually think you might have another wife you havent told her about, or worse.


apocalypse later said:
I guess I'm looking more for future advice of how not to look like an unemotional, cynical piece of crap. I want to be confident and independent, but I don't want to be a jerk and make the girl think I don't care about her.
give her surprises from time to time. there are tons of ways to say "I love you" without having to be there. pick her up on a rainy nite. buy a rose. leave a voice mail. things that show you care. you can also throw in a little C+F from time to time, but make sure she knows ur only joking.
 

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BUMP. I have the same problem myself. My GF told me that she didn't feel I really put much effort in this relationship.
 

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Fela Kuti said:
BUMP. I have the same problem myself. My GF told me that she doesn't feel I really put much effort in this relationship.
You shouldn't HAVE to put an incredible amount of effort into your relationship. Is she not happy with who you are? Are you happy with who you are?

Is she trying to change you into someone you don't want to be?
 

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apocalypse later said:
One of the biggest flaws I have is showing that I care without looking too needy. I'm a really independent guy, or at least I feel I am. A lot of my girl friends at school think I'm pretty detached when it comes to emotions in a relationship. Most of my relationships have ended as of late because the girl feels I am just too uninterested in her.
IMHO you have intimacy problems dude. You hate it when girls get close to you so you sabotage the relationship before they can.

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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