"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How to seduce the girl who wont let you go down

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Trying to get into her pants. We only made out and I felt her up. Wouldnt go any further.

About her:
Very Dominant
We think toooooo alike
Doesn't want a relashionship




Ive gotten into 5 girls pants this week and a half easy. This one I just cant get past.

We kept it as fu(k buddies but shes not letting me go down om here


How can I get past this
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Fail. Not enough details.


How long have you been seeing her?

How'd you meet?

How many times (days) have you tried to escalate and failed?

How did you establish a fvck buddy relationship if you haven't fvcked her yet?

Explain her dominance? Is it only in the bedroom, her personality in general, her body language, what?

Who gives a sh!t if you think alike if she isn't worth more than a fvck buddy to you?

Cool maybe we can help you if you answer those. Cmon now dude :p
 
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How long have you been seeing her? 2nd time I saw here

How'd you meet? POF

How many times (days) have you tried to escalate and failed? Tryed, pulled back, then tryed again a couple min later..We hung out last Sunday, its been about a week

How did you establish a fvck buddy relationship if you haven't fvcked her yet?

Explain her dominance? Is it only in the bedroom, her personality in general, her body language, what? Everything in general, but on the inside shes insecurie. she told me today, she hides behind her glasses and in the past burnt her self with a ciggratte, also she was engagged but the guy broke it off (her family is very religious)

Who gives a sh!t if you think alike if she isn't worth more than a fvck buddy to yout? I wouldnt mind more then a **** buddy but those feelings arent there yet. As of right now all we do is make a good team.
 
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I see.

Cool. You shouldn't worry then. Plenty of girls have LMR and it just takes 1-2 more times in your bed to get her past it. She just needs more comfort. You have her attracted.. and the seduction is there, she just needs to know you aren't going to fvck her and then disappear.

I would invite her over sunday and try again. Sounds like she has some legit reasons too (not necessarily sane reasons, but some past issues that lead to trouble trusting new men, which is understandable.)

Try and not think of it as rejection - She isn't necessarily rejecting you, she just isn't ready yet. I mean in the big picture, you got pretty damn far with this girl so there's no sense in giving up now. Don't force it on her, just do what you did last time and keep it the escalation at a steady pace. Don't push her, you know what I mean? She just needs that comfort & trust and it's not fully there yet. There's really nothing you can do other than respect her from this point forward and to keep doin' what you're doin'. So to answer your question of how to "seduce her" to get further, simply continue and you'll get there. You aren't doing anything wrong.
 
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Im not thinking of it as rejection at all. Im just looking to go down on her and hopefully start up a relashionship in the future,


Thats exactly what I was thinking, I just need to build up more comfort and get her to open up a bit more to me.

Thanks for the advice bro
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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One more thing that bothered me, she told me straight up she was using me, I told her straight up the same. After I said that I said I should kick her out of my house after that, she said yeah you probably should. I have kicked other girls out in the past but not this one. We started to cuddle then she asked why im so vulnerable around her, even when the other day when i just kissed her out to know where she said I was dominant...God damn **** tests. lol

Then she texts me that she showed up almost an hour later to go out out and it was definaetly her fault(her type of sene of humor and apologizes for making fun of me when I told her something personal about her) Like I told her I honestly forgot about it, and that ide hit her up later. Never did. Im going to text her tomorrow morning.

What do you guys think of that?
 
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You have to let her lead. Wait until she texts.

I had a girl spend the night with me 8 times but wouldn't have sex (I had only seen her 9 times in my life and we slept together the last 8). Then 3 out of the next 4 times we did have sex, including the last time. The key was I let her ask me out. I had to employ NC for up to 8 days twice, but last time she was extremely romantic and starry eyed before we did it (after being icy cold prior).
 
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bigneil said:
You have to let her lead. Wait until she texts.

I had a girl spend the night with me 8 times but wouldn't have sex (I had only seen her 9 times in my life and we slept together the last 8). Then 3 out of the next 4 times we did have sex, including the last time. The key was I let her ask me out. I had to employ NC for up to 8 days twice, but last time she was extremely romantic and starry eyed before we did it (after being icy cold prior).
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I cant see this working with her. Shes the dominant type, she likes men who lead. I still think my best bet is to build up more trust and have her open up to me more.
 
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and you need to do freez out
if you getting pulled back be col with that do something else cut off all the sex and kiss
she will beg you for more
this summer i had a girl like that i playin with are breast and kissed her but always i was trying to get to her pants (and in the begining it was to her breast) i just did a freez out
a couple of time and then she beg me ....
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Thats worked a couple of times when I did it for fun. Once I went no more kissed for u, she said fine no more of u, i froze out and she did to...That took a looong time, we both just started talking then both ended up kissing eachother again. I told u, shes a strong chick
 
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you dont need to tell her 'no more kiss' cause for her itll become a game
ok lets assume that you are kissing touching and even playin with her boobies
no you tryn to get to her pants but she reject you ... no problem get up grab her hand and say 'lets get some ice cream im starving' thats it
from now shell ask herself 'wow ! what just happened ?'
and youre taking control
you decide when you want to have sex with her !
 
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gimme some news about it
tell me if its work for you or not !
 
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