"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to open in this situation?

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OK. You're sitting in a pasta shop. In front, two chicks stop at the stall in front of this pasta shop to get some ice cream. The 9/10 locks eyes with you, 3 separate times.

How in the world can you get up from your seat, leave your food, go over and talk to the chick and get her contact, without alienating her friend (who is going to spend only 20 seconds tops buying her own ice cream) and looking kinda... I don't know, wouldn't this come off as desperate? Should one even approach in such a situation?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Pimp-sicle

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Why would you look desperate for approaching?

The overall mentality of this main board needs to change!

You guys are sooooo scared and controlled by your fear!

If a girl locks eyes with you that's an invitation.

If you chose to not do anything that's your fault.

If I was in the situation I would simply approach, sit down at the table and chat both of them up.

Of course you would give her friend some attention to, so you can disarm her. Then focus on the target and see what happens.

Don't overanalyze a simple situation.








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They weren't at a table. They were standing outside the shop. Does this change anything?
 

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randomshinichi said:
They weren't at a table. They were standing outside the shop. Does this change anything?

Of course not! She locked eyes with you 3 times and your wondering if you will look desperate?

Think about that for a second.


Capitalize on your opportunity because most of the time you don't get a second chance.








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I don't love em, I don't chase em I duck em
I wouldn't do sh!t. I wouldn't get up and approach her. That's thirsty as hell if you ask me. What I would have done is to tell her to come to you.

What kind of thirsty dude is going to put his fork and food down and go across a restaurant to talk to a female because she looked at him. It's all about the frame playboy. If she was interested she would have came to you no problem.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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What kind of thirsty dude is going to put his fork and food down and go across a restaurant to talk to a female because she looked at him. It's all about the frame playboy. If she was interested she would have came to you no problem.
Your a smart dude, but your def wrong here. Women give you subtle cues that they are interested and it is always the man's job to approach.

You talk about the frame, how does the girl approaching you set the frame properly?? I mean I'm not saying a girl approaching you is bad, but if this dude is getting eye phucked like that, its his job to handle his business.

Different ways to skin a cat, but what you gotta understand AJ is not every dude gets approached simply because of their outer appearance.






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PrettyBoyAJ said:
I wouldn't do sh!t. I wouldn't get up and approach her. That's thirsty as hell if you ask me. What I would have done is to tell her to come to you.

What kind of thirsty dude is going to put his fork and food down and go across a restaurant to talk to a female because she looked at him. It's all about the frame playboy. If she was interested she would have came to you no problem.
I disagree...

I cant see her approaching him "setting the frame" in a positive direction for him. I was victim of this for many years...

I ALWAYS waited for the girl to approach me. ALWAYS.. do you have any idea how many women I have missed out on because of this. it also gives the wrong impression in certain situations.

If you want to know WHAT to do in situations like this for future reference.. try not to talk YOURSELF out of approaching. let your natural instincts take over. The more you start THINKING what to do and what to say, youve talked yourself out of the approach all together.

Rando....

there is nothing wrong with being blunt and honest with the girls at the ice cream shop. Get up and walk over to them and let her know that you didnt want this opportunity to pass and wanted to introduce yourself. I wouldve even made a comment about leaving your food over at the table and now she is obligated to come sit down with you/give number/etc because your food is getting cold.

My impression, is that if you are asking us this question, you are probably uncomfortable in most situations like this. over thinking what you MAY look like by approaching. if this is the case, ask yourself. what does it look like when she KNOWS that you are aware shes interested, yet do NOTHING....??
 

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just do it. worst case losing face is better than missing out on a good opportunity
 

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Maybe yall are right. I would think it's thirsty but then again I don't have the best solo game on the forum. Sometimes you need to go outside your comfort zone for the better.

Me personally, I'd just wave her to come to me. But thinking on it, maybe that's lazy macking.
 
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