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How to make distinction between flirting / doing job?

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Okay, so I'm sure everyone knows(I hope so at least) that there are certain professions in which the females have learned that being flirty greatly helps their chances increased tips. Bartenders / hair cutters / strippers etc.

I was wondering where we can draw the line and make the distinction? Thinking about it now I could've just by trying to pursue it and not of been a pvssy, but I"ll go on anyway.

I was watching a college football game Saturday at a bar with some buddies. I'm 23, the bartender was in her later 30's probably. So that factor alone is a little intimidating for me but she was pretty hot.

Anyway, she winked at me when I was at the bar(Think I was giving her the hungry eyes, I'm pretty good at speaking w/ my eyes I've noticed), she later winked at me again, smiled when she winked as well.

When we went outside to smoke some of my buddies were talking about her/ how hot she was etc. Didn't hear any of them talking about how she was winking at any of them. Pretty sure I was the only one she was winking at because I said something to one of my friends about it and he didnt' think so either.

Like I said, I realize I could've found out for sure by talking to her / trying to # close etc. I did talk with her a little but just some small sh1t. But just wanted your opinion / own experiences with this type of thing.
 

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I dated a girl who was a jello shot girl, and she got plenty of attention from dudes, including ass grabbing and sh*t.

I've never scored one of these "hired guns" excluding a few baristas at coffee shops, but from what I've read, you just need to stand out from the other guys by not falling for her flirtatiousness.

The absolute BEST way to get one of those girls is to just become security at one of those places. You will meet TONS of women, including being tight with the staff. Best way to get social proof in a bar. Again, this is just theory, because I've never done security. But I know guys here have experience, as well as some local guys I know.
 

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Vice said:
I dated a girl who was a jello shot girl, and she got plenty of attention from dudes, including ass grabbing and sh*t.

I've never scored one of these "hired guns" excluding a few baristas at coffee shops, but from what I've read, you just need to stand out from the other guys by not falling for her flirtatiousness.

The absolute BEST way to get one of those girls is to just become security at one of those places. You will meet TONS of women, including being tight with the staff. Best way to get social proof in a bar. Again, this is just theory, because I've never done security. But I know guys here have experience, as well as some local guys I know.
Well, that's kind of +1 for me, pretty sure I was standing out from my buddies. It's just how I carry myself and act. But just didn't want to placate my ego too much, but I think they might of been geniune winks.
 

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joverby said:
Well, that's kind of +1 for me, pretty sure I was standing out from my buddies. It's just how I carry myself and act. But just didn't want to placate my ego too much, but I think they might of been geniune winks.
Maybe I'm gonna sound like a chick here, but is it weird that I'm creeped out by the thought of a woman winking at you? For god's sake, just come on over and talk to joverby. "How's the beer?" "Haven't seen you here before."

That's the only thing that makes me think she's just having fun and not genuinely trying to get you. Because...well, who SERIOUSLY winks at people these days in hopes of getting attention?
 

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Maybe I'm gonna sound like a chick here, but is it weird that I'm creeped out by the thought of a woman winking at you? For god's sake, just come on over and talk to joverby. "How's the beer?" "Haven't seen you here before."

That's the only thing that makes me think she's just having fun and not genuinely trying to get you. Because...well, who SERIOUSLY winks at people these days in hopes of getting attention?
Very true. Like I said guys, I already know the only sure-fire way would've been to try to pursue and I didn't do that. But I realize that's why, was looking for this type of comment. Thanks.

Just threw me off when she winked AGAIN. None of my buddies got winks to my knowledge /shrug. Maybe I'll go back next week and see if she's there and actually talk to her.
 

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well there's a new hired gun in my club. It's all new for her and she's trying a lot of mind games and stuff.

I am trying them too. I was ignoring all the girls last friday, and so i also ignored her. Little did I know she's my collegue. Now when she walks by me she ignores me too and wants me to give in and initiate contact.

I'm just going to keep things professional and not give into a sexual frame.

I find that once you get into a sexual frame with girls you don't know in places like school and work they think they own you.

But TBH she was probably winking at you to get a bigger tip or something. I flirt with girls aswell when I'm working. They often do give me a tip :)
 
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