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How to make a girl submit who rejected you?

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I thought I am not even angry.

Until I read again that you assumed I must be filled with rage. And yes, I am, this is what makes me so void of empathy.
Thing is, it's not even about this girl or situation, it's rage from the past, bottled up.

The rejection is similar to what caused my rage back then (as are the situations when I feel attacked by someone).
Direct the rage and channel it into confidence to go hit on other girls. Let your rage push you to not give a **** about what anyone thinks and go for what you want with other girls.
 

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Like Patrice O'neal once said; you feel like a bear surrounded by salmon dipped in honey but you CANNOT touch it.

I think OP has a living in a room situation, where yuy dont really get to pick who will be your neighbor.

Gentlemen, NEVER pursue women in these situations, unless she comes on to you STRONG.
- work, sport, home, social circle (sometimes), and probably a few I forget to mention. Be thankful OP wrote about this, and learn from this . You'll be a prisoner in your own home. Dont poopoo where you eat.
I don't want to go too much into the details about the exact circumstances, but yes, I couldn't take a pick who will move in.
 

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@PowerQuest , @Gamisch
About the friendzone: I don't have a sister, so I assume the favorable friendzone is looking like bantering around and minimum light conversation:
?
 

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I guess the end of story is she is respectful, I am not conversational, she isn't as well, I am not in the mood to tease her at all, it seems she would be receptive to teasing, she has put on parfume and went out, which means I am moving on.

I didn't write this in the OP, but I was already concentrating on myself and didn't want to get distracted by women for the next months.
There will be more situations like this, the universe likes to test me apparently. I would appreciate input how I can effectively friendzone women right off the bat.
 

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What's that?
What did you seen when you googled it?

Its something you spray, add drops on you that is supposed to alter the perception of your vibe and get women to respond better to your presence and in turn calm your nerves so you can be more yourself around them. I tried it in 2011 in earnest but dropped it totally after Dec 6, 2014 and currently have no interest in it. However, it comes like that duex ex machina in seduction where you cant figure out what is wrong and it makes it easier. The focus is mainly aura, vibe, charisma, sense of presence, or even giving a fake vibe that you are a successful playboy who gets lots of girls and its nothing to pick up another one, etc.... (couplins? Google that too).
 

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I thought I am not even angry.

Until I read again that you assumed I must be filled with rage. And yes, I am, this is what makes me so void of empathy.
Thing is, it's not even about this girl or situation, it's rage from the past, bottled up.

The rejection is similar to what caused my rage back then (as are the situations when I feel attacked by someone).

Advice from the old lady: Ok. This is the deeper shjt you gotta deal with. Why? Because if you don’t you are going to “go off” on someone for some minor infraction at some point and that is not good.

Look how triggered minor rejection has you. Who cares!

Understand something.

Not everyone is going to be interested in you. Ok. Fine. Pick someone who IS interested in you and drive on. If your ego is enraged by this then your sense of self worth is weak. No random chick defines your self worth unless you internalize that rejection and reject yourself.

Stop it.

You gotta see it like this:

Do you want ketchup on your fries?

Yes? No? Does it matter what you say to the drive through guy? Is he sad because you rejected (said no) to his offer of ketchup?

He could care less. Do the same with women. Some will say yes some will say no.

So what. None of that defines you. Let it go.

Get therapy for the deeper crap eating at you. No shame in getting your mind right & strong.

Seriously.
 

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Update:
@thermodynamic What you described came natural to me at some points. I didn't see the heavy test coming, I should have read your post again maybe, but @Gamisch was absolutely right about rejections being a blessing (I made another shot and she lost interest).
The shot I made was telling her I'm nervous around her, and she asked why, which threw me completely off balance. I just stood there, and slowly turned away in silence.
This girl is going for the top tier guys (and she can). I'm not one of those guys, and I don't want to be, because it's not who I am right now.
And I never will be, because if I would be as confident and self-secure as the top tier guys, it would be because of the journey I took, not because I was raised like that.
And if I would be a top tier guy, I would never be able to truly respect a partner who never did a similar journey like I am doing.
Her test made me realize that I don't want that girl.
So I am now trying to create tension, tease her if it feels right and I'm in the mood, practice my social skills, and maybe get her into bed eventually, but mainly because I can.
 

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Update:
@thermodynamic What you described came natural to me at some points. I didn't see the heavy test coming, I should have read your post again maybe, but @Gamisch was absolutely right about rejections being a blessing (I made another shot and she lost interest).
The shot I made was telling her I'm nervous around her, and she asked why, which threw me completely off balance. I just stood there, and slowly turned away in silence.
This girl is going for the top tier guys (and she can). I'm not one of those guys, and I don't want to be, because it's not who I am right now.
And I never will be, because if I would be as confident and self-secure as the top tier guys, it would be because of the journey I took, not because I was raised like that.
And if I would be a top tier guy, I would never be able to truly respect a partner who never did a similar journey like I am doing.
Her test made me realize that I don't want that girl.
So I am now trying to create tension, tease her if it feels right and I'm in the mood, practice my social skills, and maybe get her into bed eventually, but mainly because I can.
I don't know man, this whole post sounds pretty defeatist. Why would you tell her you are nervous around her, let alone you should not be nervous around her. She totally floored you man.

You have a ways to go. I would suggest let her go, accept you missed this one and just play it cool around her while making sure she does not take advantage of you (treat those like a test, don't get upset , just be firm). All girls want top tier guys, just like we want top tier girls. Doesn't mean you need to be perfect to get a girl.
 

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I don't know man, this whole post sounds pretty defeatist. Why would you tell her you are nervous around her, let alone you should not be nervous around her. She totally floored you man.
Yeah she did haha. But you know what? She could have reacted way more cooperative. Another women may have been just flattered, smiled and then asked the why. She even mocked me after I zoned out. Most women react empathetically.
I told her I'm nervous because it was true. It was a bold move, and that's what I appreciate about me. I didn't know how to dissolve the nervousness in another way. I know now that it was exactly what she asked me for: She is attractive and I want to fvck her. Nothing about who she is as person or whatever. I didn't admit this to myself until now.
You have a ways to go. I would suggest let her go, accept you missed this one and just play it cool around her while making sure she does not take advantage of you (treat those like a test, don't get upset , just be firm). All girls want top tier guys, just like we want top tier girls. Doesn't mean you need to be perfect to get a girl.
I can't change being attracted to her. I realized I am attracted to her body, not her as a human being. Both the girl and me weren't interested who the other person is. I have nothing to loose here if I remain respectful to myself. This is a good opportunity for me to practice my social skills. I will also keep in mind what you said about the moment when other guys appear.
 

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Yeah she did haha. But you know what? She could have reacted way more cooperative. Another women may have been just flattered, smiled and then asked the why. She even mocked me after I zoned out. Most women react empathetically.
I told her I'm nervous because it was true. It was a bold move, and that's what I appreciate about me. I didn't know how to dissolve the nervousness in another way. I know now that it was exactly what she asked me for: She is attractive and I want to fvck her. Nothing about who she is as person or whatever. I didn't admit this to myself until now.

I can't change being attracted to her. I realized I am attracted to her body, not her as a human being. Both the girl and me weren't interested who the other person is. I have nothing to loose here if I remain respectful to myself. This is a good opportunity for me to practice my social skills. I will also keep in mind what you said about the moment when other guys appear.
You need to STOP trying to sleep with this girl and go get some therapy my man. You've got a very beta defeated loser outlook on yourself and you have zero social skills. I.bet this girl is your average chick that's maybe semi decent looking.

Get some professional help and make some changes in your life to become a little "Lively". You sound like a depressed loser that gets mad because (mainly women) won't give you attention.

Don't become a weirdo with her and land yourself a restraining order or worse. Improve yourself and your life and get your own place without roommates. If that sounds too hard then the game isn't for you.
 

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Yeah she did haha. But you know what? She could have reacted way more cooperative. Another women may have been just flattered, smiled and then asked the why. She even mocked me after I zoned out. Most women react empathetically.
They probably do not. Women are harsh as **** with the guys they consider as an option. Take it a positive thing when they're harsh. They are testing you hard and its a good thing.

I told her I'm nervous because it was true. It was a bold move, and that's what I appreciate about me. I didn't know how to dissolve the nervousness in another way. I know now that it was exactly what she asked me for: She is attractive and I want to fvck her. Nothing about who she is as person or whatever. I didn't admit this to myself until now.
You shouldn't a told her that in person - "She is attractive and I want to fvck her." - just change the last phrase for something more mild but that communicates the same thing. Read Alan Roger Currie. Man is on point.

I can't change being attracted to her. I realized I am attracted to her body, not her as a human being. Both the girl and me weren't interested who the other person is.
This should make it even easier to move on.
 
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